Indiana University Recruitment 2017

[IUpnmmom]

Found this info on another site. (one we are not to talk about)Please confirm if this is accurate. Missing Alpha Phi #


Quota was set at 55 originally but went down to 54 after SO many PNMs dropped out of recruitment.

1194 PNMs ACCEPTED their bids. I do not know how many were extended bids, but chose to reject them. With about 1700 PNMs registered for recruitment, this is roughly a 70% placement rate (which could have been higher if so many PNMs did not drop out of rush/had accepted the bids extended to them)

Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by IUpnmmom

Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63

An advisor/alum for one of the chapters gave me a different number for her chapter. However, this chapter could have have offered two bids since bid night.

[shadokat]

I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

Originally Posted by IUpnmmom

Found this info on another site. (one we are not to talk about)Please confirm if this is accurate. Missing Alpha Phi #


Quota was set at 55 originally but went down to 54 after SO many PNMs dropped out of recruitment.

1194 PNMs ACCEPTED their bids. I do not know how many were extended bids, but chose to reject them. With about 1700 PNMs registered for recruitment, this is roughly a 70% placement rate (which could have been higher if so many PNMs did not drop out of rush/had accepted the bids extended to them)

Alpha Chi Omega 55
Alpha Delta Pi 57
Alpha Epsilon Phi 54
Alpha Gamma Delta 62
Alpha Omicron Pi 59
Alpha Sigma Alpha 54
Alpha Xi Delta 57
Chi Omega 55
Delta Delta Delta 54
Delta Gamma 61
Delta Phi Epsilon 16
Delta Zeta 54
Gamma Phi Beta 56
Kappa Alpha Theta 58
Kappa Delta 54
Kappa Kappa Gamma 57
Phi Mu 57
Pi Beta Phi 54
Sigma Delta Tau 52
Sigma Kappa 57
Theta Phi Alpha 48
Zeta Tau Alpha 63

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by shadokat

I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

And if they don't maximize their options, they aren't eligible to be a QA; and based on the numbers above, many chapters took QAs.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

They have always had quota, for awhile it was bed quota. Now it's Panhel sets a minimum number and chapters are allowed to go over it, but not intentionally under.

Originally Posted by shadokat

I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

I understand that if you hit quota regardless of what it is etc. you can take QAs and that QAs are mainly for the benefit of rushees so they don't end up bidless. That being said, I guess my real query in this situation (although I took a minute to get to it) is that with the concept of QAs existing as it does, why would you intentionally set a higher quota? Isn't that kind of setting yourself up to flop?

ETA: I think I may have figured out why...so they can snap bid a bunch?

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...=22514&page=11

[Titchou]

Actually, no because the U set the minimum quota (and we are just talking about Indiana here). And if you do the math, 1270 at bid matching divided by 23 groups,which I think is right, comes out to 55 and that's what minimum was. So they nailed it. And the only ones snap bidding are the perceived lower tier groups -except for the odd one here and there. No,you can't count on getting to snap bid. You're better off taking QAs.

The other side of the coin is that it really should have been higher but they know a lot are going to drop out. Only 1270 getting to bid matching is sad.

If you are talking about other schools that totally use RFM, the RFM specialist sets quota - not the school. So that blows your theory out of the water.

[axohyeah]

Originally Posted by shadokat

I know for a fact that while 1,650 PNMs started, only 1,270 ended up at bid matching. And 40% of those women didn't maximize their options on MRABA.

So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by axohyeah

So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

yes, that means 500 girls didn't maximize their options. And at this point, I'm just happy that it looks like about 92% of the women that went to preference received a bid (based on the numbers above).

Maybe I'm just jaded from IU recruitment, but I would rather the girls that go bidless be because THEY chose not to maximize rather than it being the fault of the chapters because quota was too low or whatever the complaint is that day.

I know the Rho Gammas were encouraging everyone to maximize but we all know how well 18-19 yr olds listen.

[axohyeah]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

yes, that means 500 girls didn't maximize their options. And at this point, I'm just happy that it looks like about 92% of the women that went to preference received a bid (based on the numbers above).

Maybe I'm just jaded from IU recruitment, but I would rather the girls that go bidless be because THEY chose not to maximize rather than it being the fault of the chapters because quota was too low or whatever the complaint is that day.

I know the Rho Gammas were encouraging everyone to maximize but we all know how well 18-19 yr olds listen.

Thank you and yes, agree 100% on all above.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

yes, that means 500 girls didn't maximize their options. And at this point, I'm just happy that it looks like about 92% of the women that went to preference received a bid (based on the numbers above).

Maybe I'm just jaded from IU recruitment, but I would rather the girls that go bidless be because THEY chose not to maximize rather than it being the fault of the chapters because quota was too low or whatever the complaint is that day.

I know the Rho Gammas were encouraging everyone to maximize but we all know how well 18-19 yr olds listen.

Part of the reason that many girls may not have maximized is because they had three preference options instead of two. Per an RFM training I went to in December put on by NPC, NPC is moving towards two preference options no matter how many chapters a campus has in part because women are much less likely to be happy with receiving a bid from their third choice chapter if they have three choices to list.

I would guess than many of the women who did not maximize listed two chapters rather than just one, where if they'd only had two chapters to begin with they wouldn't have not maximized and that figure would be lower. It would also cut down on chapters inviting back women to their preference who would absolutely not accept a bid from that chapter and perhaps don't need to be at their preference event, if going to the three parties prior and then pref didn't change their opinion of that chapter.

I agree that PNMs run the risk of not getting a bid if they don't list all their options and shouldn't be rewarded for it, necessarily, but with a figure that high maybe that's something Indiana needs to look to. Disclaimer: I don't work at Indiana and only have information about it based on what I read here, but I could see this helping with those figures.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

Part of the reason that many girls may not have maximized is because they had three preference options instead of two. Per an RFM training I went to in December put on by NPC, NPC is moving towards two preference options no matter how many chapters a campus has in part because women are much less likely to be happy with receiving a bid from their third choice chapter if they have three choices to list.

Students and parents can't have it both ways. IU changed from bed rush to their current system and added three sororities because people were SCREAMING too many women were being denied a bid. Come to find out all they really wanted was more open membership spaces in the popular houses.

So now NPC might deny that third pref house option on every campus no matter the number of sororities on campus, all in the name of having more women maximize options. How will denying a third pref house to PNMs (especially on a large campus) build-up the size of the smaller/alleged lower tier groups? And what does that say about panhellenic love and working together for the good of all campus NPC groups?

Why not just have a PNM come out and choose ONE house she wants for pref, and skip the niceties of learning to interact with people in a sorority you simply think you cannot stand?

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Students and parents can't have it both ways. IU changed from bed rush to their current system and added three sororities because people were SCREAMING too many women were being denied a bid. Come to find out all they really wanted was more open membership spaces in the popular houses.

So now NPC might deny that third pref house option on every campus no matter the number of sororities on campus, all in the name of having more women maximize options. How will denying a third pref house to PNMs (especially on a large campus) build-up the size of the smaller/alleged lower tier groups? And what does that say about panhellenic love and working together for the good of all campus NPC groups?

Why not just have a PNM come out and choose ONE house she wants for pref, and skip the niceties of learning to interact with people in a sorority you simply think you cannot stand?

This. all of this. They just wanted more spots in THOSE chapters. Did I mention, I love this post?????

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by axohyeah

So does that mean approx 500 girls didn't maximize at preference? That seems crazy- does this happen at this scale at other schools? I know I sound like a broken record but this sounds like a tier problem to me.

It does not happen on that scale at most schools.

[33girl]

Can someone explain how they're doing QAs? I know they have to issue a minimum of 50 bids but since some groups set their quota higher aren't QAs kind of weird to have? I know they are supposed to help place as many women as possible but with so many different quotas and no set total it seems it would be more possible to manipulate it. Apologies if I missed a more detailed explanation.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Can someone explain how they're doing QAs? I know they have to issue a minimum of 50 bids but since some groups set their total higher aren't QAs kind of weird to have? I know they are supposed to help place as many women as possible but with so many different quotas and no set total it seems it would be more possible to manipulate it. Apologies if I missed a more detailed explanation.

QAs have nothing to do with total.