"I wish I had been hazed."

[FSUZeta]

I had a very similar pledgeship to Katmandu and Honeychile, except wooden crown. We also had to know fraternity pins and Greek letters of the fraternities on campus and their nicknames.

I didn't like the mass movement to shortened pledgeship and I still don't. I think it short changes the new member and the org. I wonder if it has anything to do with a rise in members dropping and I once again commend XO for not conforming with the rest of us.

[navane]

A lot of the activities you all are mentioning are NOT hazing and I, too, am annoyed how we've watered down so much of our new member experience.

Do you want to talk about being REQUIRED to memorize stuff?? You don't even want to know about what I had to memorize for firefighter academy. I imagine that our GC military members, nurses, doctors, lawyers, etc had similarly heinous memorization tasks.

Being asked to learn and understand an organization's vision, history and members is not hazing. Throwing the baby out with the bath water......

[AOIILisa]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

I had a very similar pledgeship to Katmandu and Honeychile, except wooden crown. We also had to know fraternity pins and Greek letters of the fraternities on campus and their nicknames.

I didn't like the mass movement to shortened pledgeship and I still don't. I think it short changes the new member and the org. I wonder if it has anything to do with a rise in members dropping and I once again commend XO for not conforming with the rest of us.

And it doesn't seem to be hurting XO one bit! I don't like the shortened pledgeship either. I proctored our New Member exam last time for the chapter I advise and there were so many NMs who had to be prompted, because they hadn't had time to learn/memorize and some that acted like it was a huge hassle/joke.

I can't remember all the stuff that happened when I was a (full semester!) pledge but I definitely remember being woken up at 5 am with the rest of my class to run down fraternity row and serenade all the fraternities one by one. We also had "fun" scavenger hunts and were "kidnapped" (also fun) and during Inspiration Week just before initiation, we had to carry around a number of items (our paddle, some candy, a few other things I can't remember) and if we were stopped by a sister, we had to produce them if requested. It was all in fun, I would never say any of this was hazing (well, maybe having to be seen with no makeup and bed head at 5 am by fraternity guys ) but I guess it's considered hazing now.