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02-09-2016, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
^^^Isn't this a determination of biological SEX, not gender?
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Here's what was put to me. First, look up Lizard Man. In a nutshell, he had every inch of his body tattooed with green scales. He had his tongue surgically forked and he only eats lizard foods like insects. He says that he is definitely a lizard. Now decide:
1. Is Lizard Man a man or a lizard?
2. If you think he's a man, is this any different from someone claiming to be a different sex?
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02-09-2016, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by carnation
Here's what was put to me. First, look up Lizard Man. In a nutshell, he had every inch of his body tattooed with green scales. He had his tongue surgically forked and he only eats lizard foods like insects. He says that he is definitely a lizard. Now decide:
1. Is Lizard Man a man or a lizard?
2. If you think he's a man, is this any different from someone claiming to be a different sex?
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I think a better question would be what you hope to accomplish by repeatedly telling this guy he isn't a lizard if that's what makes him happy.
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02-09-2016, 03:53 PM
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What they were saying is that if you accept that a person is a girl because he or she says they're a girl, it's only fair to accept Lizard Man as a lizard because he says he's one.
Same with the transabled folks.
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02-09-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by carnation
What they were saying is that if you accept that a person is a girl because he or she says they're a girl, it's only fair to accept Lizard Man as a lizard because he says he's one.
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Well, that's a terribly analogy because SEX is biologically determined; GENDER is a social construct.
But setting that aside, if some dude tells me that he's a lizard, then he's a lizard. IDGAF.
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02-09-2016, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Well, that's a terribly analogy because SEX is biologically determined; GENDER is a social construct.
But setting that aside, if some dude tells me that he's a lizard, then he's a lizard. IDGAF.
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Right. What's it to me? No one is making me live as a lizard. You do you, lizard man!
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02-09-2016, 04:02 PM
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I live in a city that just passed an "all-gender restroom ordinance". This is very new to all us, so it provides a learning experience for everyone.
I'm wondering whether sororities - and fraternities, as well - would be ready to accept transgender women into their communities. Is it a topic that is ever discussed at chapter meetings, or something advisers discuss with chapter officers?
In order for a transgender woman to be accepted into a community - in this case a Greek community of 18-22 yo people, where the vast majority would likely identify themselves as straight - she would have to welcomed as a woman. My point is, and it's something I ran into recently, that some men in our society don't even understand what transgender is; they confuse them as drag queens, or as men "pretending" to be women. Progression requires education and awareness.
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