Sororities to allow all female-identifying students to rush

[FSUZeta]

Each national org DOES set their own membership requirements. One would think that Brown Panhellenic would know this.

Crossing the female membership requirement line might open up our orgs to males identifying as males seeking sorority membership. I like the NPC sororities as they are now, founded by women for women.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

I like the NPC sororities as they are now, founded by women for women.

Transgender women are women. Full stop.

[carnation]

Do they have XX chromosomes?

[clemsongirl]

For scientific clarification:

The three ways of determining biological sex are chromosomes, gonads (penis, vagina, testes, ovaries, etc) and hormone levels. Some women have levels of testosterone that fall into the acceptable range for men but still consider themselves women, such as the case of South African track athlete Caster Semenya. Others, such as women with androgen insensitivity syndrome, have male gonads, but those gonads are undescended and their bodies cannot process testosterone. These women look, for all intents and purposes, like "biological" women but are chromosomally male and to some extent gonadally as well. There are even people with extra or fewer sex chromosomes than most, but the vast majority of these people fall into one social designation of gender or the other.

We don't peek down the pants of a PNM, demand their bloodwork before offering a bid for membership or require genetic testing because a woman is a woman if she believes herself to be one and presents herself as one, not if she passes some sort of biological checklist. Sex and gender are different concepts.

[KerriMarie]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

For scientific clarification:

The three ways of determining biological sex are chromosomes, gonads (penis, vagina, testes, ovaries, etc) and hormone levels. Some women have levels of testosterone that fall into the acceptable range for men but still consider themselves women, such as the case of South African track athlete Caster Semenya. Others, such as women with androgen insensitivity syndrome, have male gonads, but those gonads are undescended and their bodies cannot process testosterone. These women look, for all intents and purposes, like "biological" women but are chromosomally male and to some extent gonadally as well. There are even people with extra or fewer sex chromosomes than most, but the vast majority of these people fall into one social designation of gender or the other.

We don't peek down the pants of a PNM, demand their bloodwork before offering a bid for membership or require genetic testing because a woman is a woman if she believes herself to be one and presents herself as one, not if she passes some sort of biological checklist. Sex and gender are different concepts.

Well said!

[KerriMarie]

Originally Posted by carnation

Do they have XX chromosomes?

Are you recommending genetics testing before giving out bids? Or just before initiation?

[carnation]

Originally Posted by KerriMarie

Are you recommending genetics testing before giving out bids? Or just before initiation?

The EXACT SECOND that they sign up for recruitment!

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by carnation

The EXACT SECOND that they sign up for recruitment!

You're the one who brought up genetics, so her question seems fair (to me, anyway). I'm not sure I understand why you're being a smart-aleck about it.

[33girl]

I thought a few of the Seven Sisters schools had accepted men for a while now.