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Old 10-16-2015, 04:50 PM
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Welcome to the reality of every unjustly incarcerated (who are mostly people of color) people.

Permanent life altering decisions based on rash interpretations and preconceived notions.
So then you must be at least partially aware of how absurdly hypocritical your stance on this issue is. You are about one connection away from realizing what everybody else is trying to tell you. Make the leap.

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I'm not comfortable with the theme, but I'm also not comfortable condemning it.
My issue is not the theme. You can protest the theme. What you can't do is defiantly label a group of people as doing a specific heinous act, publicly shame theme and drag their names through the mud, when there is actually no proof it ever happened (and in fact, abundant proof to the contrary).

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Given that about a year ago the historically white GLO fraternity in Oklahoma was caught on camera singing a song using the N-word, plus all of the recent protests over police killings and beatings of Black people, then that leaves any other incident after all this as suspect.
Yes, which was awful. And I wholeheartedly protested that and think the chapter deserved everything that happened to them. I also understand that actions like this will cause the offended group to be especially cautious of the institution as a whole. And yet...

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I'm sure the APhis meant their party to be innocent fun, but their actions are being judged and viewed through all of these recent social happenings.
If a person of privilege makes an uninformed assumption and unlawful accusation based on a stereotype, I have no doubt you would protest it (so would I). We must think critically about these things. That has to extend to both sides. If you are going to protest a heinous act and name names, you need to make DAMN WELL SURE it actually happened. The SAE racist chant absolutely happened without a doubt. There is video. There are witnesses. Same for when alumna at an SEC school (blanking on which one) blocked the pledging of a black woman.

In this case there is no evidence. In fact, it is blatantly clear to all who spend more than 5 seconds looking at the photo that it was not blackface. Nobody did their research here. Nobody thought critically. People jumped on a trope of "racist sorority" and ran with it without ever examining the evidence, you included based on your earlier posts where you clearly didn't even know what specifically the women were dressed as and clearly had not even seen the photos in question.

It used to be innocent until proven guilty. Our culture has shifted to guilty until proven innocent. You are arguing one step farther...you are actually arguing "GUILTY EVEN THOUGH PROVEN INNOCENT". How can you not see this???
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:30 AM
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So then you must be at least partially aware of how absurdly hypocritical your stance on this issue is. You are about one connection away from realizing what everybody else is trying to tell you. Make the leap.



My issue is not the theme. You can protest the theme. What you can't do is defiantly label a group of people as doing a specific heinous act, publicly shame theme and drag their names through the mud, when there is actually no proof it ever happened (and in fact, abundant proof to the contrary).



Yes, which was awful. And I wholeheartedly protested that and think the chapter deserved everything that happened to them. I also understand that actions like this will cause the offended group to be especially cautious of the institution as a whole. And yet...



If a person of privilege makes an uninformed assumption and unlawful accusation based on a stereotype, I have no doubt you would protest it (so would I). We must think critically about these things. That has to extend to both sides. If you are going to protest a heinous act and name names, you need to make DAMN WELL SURE it actually happened. The SAE racist chant absolutely happened without a doubt. There is video. There are witnesses. Same for when alumna at an SEC school (blanking on which one) blocked the pledging of a black woman.

In this case there is no evidence. In fact, it is blatantly clear to all who spend more than 5 seconds looking at the photo that it was not blackface. Nobody did their research here. Nobody thought critically. People jumped on a trope of "racist sorority" and ran with it without ever examining the evidence, you included based on your earlier posts where you clearly didn't even know what specifically the women were dressed as and clearly had not even seen the photos in question.

It used to be innocent until proven guilty. Our culture has shifted to guilty until proven innocent. You are arguing one step farther...you are actually arguing "GUILTY EVEN THOUGH PROVEN INNOCENT". How can you not see this???
To the red - that is a subjective statement. Since this situation has caused an uproar, it is not clear to all. Obviously, some saw the picture and thought, 'hey, that's cute', while others saw it as offensive.
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:45 AM
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My issue is not the theme. You can protest the theme. What you can't do is defiantly label a group of people as doing a specific heinous act, publicly shame theme and drag their names through the mud, when there is actually no proof it ever happened (and in fact, abundant proof to the contrary).
After seeing the news about the fake-baby-bump shower for Kim, I think the matter is settled in my mind. Mocking these two is a-okay.
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:46 AM
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After seeing the news about the fake-baby-bump shower for Kim, I think the matter is settled in my mind. Mocking these two is a-okay.
Wait, what?
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:30 PM
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After seeing the news about the fake-baby-bump shower for Kim, I think the matter is settled in my mind. Mocking these two is a-okay.
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Wait, what?

It wasn't even a baby shower, it was a surprise 35th birthday party!! And, yes, Kanye invited guests to stuff things in their shirts in order to look pregnant. The cake read "Happy Pregnant Birthday Kim".

See here: http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrit...irthday-party/


And.......is it just me, or does it look like Kylie Jenner jokingly stuffed her BUTT in this picture?? If so, that would be a bit ironic given the topic of this thread........


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