Mizzou Recruitment - Page 18

NorthernMom · #**256** 08-24-2015, 11:17 AM

You have to enable things to be saved in your sent box. I ran into that trouble too....thinking I sent things, but then not seeing them sent.

As I understand it, some chapters may still add members because they are not at their chapter total - based potentially on number of seniors or older girls who go inactive for a variety of reasons - studying abroad, internships, etc... But I am fuzzy on the timing of all that. Not sure what happens now or what happens in spring. Pbear19 surely knows more!

My daughter has known several friends join through COB and been very happy. I went to dinner with one of the girls and her Mom who COB'd my daughter's sorority during Mom's weekend last year, and was just floored she was dropped during formal recruitment.

ILMOM · #**257** 08-24-2015, 11:42 AM

From one "NorthernMom" to another...thank you for the information and sharing stories. It is very helpful to know there are all sorts of different situations out there and she is not alone.

pbear19 · #**258** 08-24-2015, 12:12 PM

Hi! Responded to PMs.

By the time I got home from CoMo and from picking my son up from my parents' house last night, I crashed. I think I fell asleep last night earlier than my 3 year old did!!

Some houses will probably do some informal COB this semester. It's nice to be able to pick up a few extra women right away so they can be integrated with the fall new member class! But some houses will also do a slightly more structured COB in the spring. It really varies from one house to another, as some will have advertised events that any interested PNM can attend, and some will only have private events or issue bids to friends of friends without opening up to the campus at large. Some of that depends on how many open spots they have!

Definitely the best advice for anyone interested in COB is to just be friendly and natural with any sorority women. Being friends with women in a chapter that can COB is the easiest way to get a bid. Second, be careful about any craziness. Mizzou's syllabus week is notorious, and women will find it much harder (or impossible) to COB if they become known for something inappropriate. Same goes for interactions with guys. Hooking up with a sister's ex (whether you know about the relationship or not) is a very quick way to make COB difficult. Finally, keep an open mind. Every house at Mizzou is amazing. If the woman wanting to COB had options and dropped out of recruitment because she didn't like those options, she really needs to take some time to evaluate what really happened. I know not everyone will get along with everyone. But generally the houses that can COB are the houses that those PNMs had invitations from in formal recruitment when they dropped.

Formal recruitment is crazy, fast, and it can be hard to make a decision when emotions are involved. Just because you thought that a house wasn't right for you during formal recruitment doesn't mean you should automatically discount them for COB. Quite the opposite, really!

ILMOM · #**259** 08-24-2015, 01:04 PM

pbear19: Great advice...thank you!

AZDBeachgirl · #**260** 08-24-2015, 02:00 PM

Hi Momoftiger!
Congrats to your daughter and to you for surviving the momma nerves that go along with our daughter's recruitment! My daughter pledged KD in the Fall of 2013 and loves, loves, loves it! I received a text from her this afternoon and she said that she is so excited about this new pledge class and that it's a fantastic group of girls!
Maybe we will meet sometime at the house- we will be out for homecoming

So happy for your daughter!!

Momoftiger · #**261** 08-25-2015, 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=AZDBeachgirl;2328277]Hi Momoftiger!
Congrats to your daughter and to you for surviving the momma nerves that go along with our daughter's recruitment! My daughter pledged KD in the Fall of 2013 and loves, loves, loves it! I received a text from her this afternoon and she said that she is so excited about this new pledge class and that it's a fantastic group of girls!
Maybe we will meet sometime at the house- we will be out for homecoming

So happy for your daughter!!
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Thank you! She went to her first chapter meeting last night and has her new member meeting tonight. She is very very happy. She said her pledge sisters are all sweet. I was in a different house in college, so I know very little about KD other than they were very nice girls on our campus way back when. Anything I should know as a new member mom? Any words of advice (like they will need to make this craft by X date? Or is there a yearly parents event we may want to put on our calendar now?). Thanks so much! I am so glad to hear your daughter loves KD!

NorthernMom · #**262** 08-25-2015, 08:43 AM

My daughter's good friend who went through recruitment this year is in your daughter's new member class in KD

MIZparent · #**263** 08-25-2015, 11:34 AM

Congratulations to all the new members of Mizzou's 15 terrific sororities! Great news that each chapter matched to quota. If that trend continues, Mizzou might open for expansion, although some space needs to open up in Greektown.

Moms... if your daughters are interested in Continuous Open Bidding, here is the link to the form she must fill out before she can participate in the informal recruiting process.

http://orgsync.com/100308/forms/151447

I have no idea if any houses will COB this semester, or next semester for that matter. That will depend on a variety of factors. There is at least one chapter that I think will be under house quota, so they may COB in the fall. What I do know is if she wants to participate in COB, she has to complete this form. The fact that PHA has already posted this form to their website so soon after recruitment, I think, is a good sign that maybe one or two chapters are at least looking for some potential new members.

Good luck! Filling out the form is not a guarantee a sorority will contact your daughter, but it's a start!

ILMOM · #**264** 08-25-2015, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MIZparent

Congratulations to all the new members of Mizzou's 15 terrific sororities! Great news that each chapter matched to quota. If that trend continues, Mizzou might open for expansion, although some space needs to open up in Greektown.

Moms... if your daughters are interested in Continuous Open Bidding, here is the link to the form she must fill out before she can participate in the informal recruiting process.

http://orgsync.com/100308/forms/151447

I have no idea if any houses will COB this semester, or next semester for that matter. That will depend on a variety of factors. There is at least one chapter that I think will be under house quota, so they may COB in the fall. What I do know is if she wants to participate in COB, she has to complete this form. The fact that PHA has already posted this form to their website so soon after recruitment, I think, is a good sign that maybe one or two chapters are at least looking for some potential new members.

Good luck! Filling out the form is not a guarantee a sorority will contact your daughter, but it's a start!

MIZparent: Thanks for the information.
Does anyone know if it makes sense to try to COB now if your grades were most likely your biggest issue...or, does it make more sense to wait at least one semester and get your grades up and then COB in Spring (if available)...or, wait until sophomore year? I'm just trying to get a sense of what is reasonable, as I wouldn't want her to go for it again so soon and then possibly be disappointed again so soon after formal recuitment.

als463 · #**265** 08-25-2015, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ILMOM

MIZparent and Bluedoor: Thank you for all the good feedback. My daughter was a "grade risk" so we knew it would be a challenge for her in that respect, but we were hoping the strength of her overall resume would help. Nonetheless, she ended up with four houses after 1st round, then down to three yesterday (of which she was really interested in one of them) but unfortunately, she got cut from that one today which left her with two she didn't feel a connection to. She decided to drop today.

I decided to ask about COB so she could work on getting her grades up this semester and give her the chance to get to know more people (we are from out of state and she didn't go there with anyone she knows) and hopefully give it another shot during spring semester.

I am very thankful for all the advice and comments...please keep them coming!

So, your daughter was a "grade risk" and she didn't "feel a connection" to two sororities who were willing to overlook the fact that she could barely make the grade? Now, you want to know if there will be COB? I hope your daughter realizes that these two sororities that she overlooked, even though she is an admitted "grade risk" are the ones who are most likely going to be doing COB events in the spring.

I just have to say that this entire attitude, at every school--especially in very competitive recruitments like the SEC, blows my mind. I am beyond shocked that girls go in with bad grades or other issues and then get upset when they are not chosen by what they perceive to be the "top" houses due to "not feeling a connection" (which we all know is code word for something else, at least in the case of those who are grade risks). Just wow.

NorthernMom · #**266** 08-25-2015, 02:14 PM

I really liked this thread, because we were all supportive of one another. It's a complicated system and many come here seeking guidance. To immediately jump the the conclusion that one dropped simply because "top" houses dropped her, is a bit presumptuous. I don't think she said that at all.

als463 · #**267** 08-25-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthernMom

I really liked this thread, because we were all supportive of one another. It's a complicated system and many come here seeking guidance. To immediately jump the the conclusion that one dropped simply because "top" houses dropped her, is a bit presumptuous. I don't think she said that at all.

If you can read between the lines, you would recognize that the perceived "top chapters" would not take grade risks whereas chapters who may have a more difficult time recruiting would take a chance on her. To drop two houses as a "grade risk" through competitive SEC recruitment says a lot about entitlement mentality.

NorthernMom · #**268** 08-25-2015, 03:32 PM

I really don't want to argue. I hate this concept of "top" and "bottom". My daughter is not in what some would say is a "top" house by any stretch. I'm not sure who feels the need to subscribe to this sort of caste system. Just because a house has an overall higher GPA doesn't mean it's tops in everyone's book. And just because a house has a lower GPA point, also doesn't mean it's not desirable to girls. I understand that there are definitely girls who do come with with the "top" and "bottom" mentality. And when the perceived elite chapters drop them, they run for the hills. But again, I don't know that is what was being asked here, and I hate for someone to get jumped on. In the end, fit is not all about elitism for all girls.

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Originally Posted by als463

If you can read between the lines, you would recognize that the perceived "top chapters" would not take grade risks whereas chapters who may have a more difficult time recruiting would take a chance on her. To drop two houses as a "grade risk" through competitive SEC recruitment says a lot about entitlement mentality.

Katmandu · #**269** 08-25-2015, 04:20 PM

Leaving the game with cards on the table in a competitive rush is not something that is going to get a lot of positive feedback here. Speaking the truth does not equal jumping all over someone. Attending additional rounds of parties frequently changes the perception and experience considerably for PNMs--we have seen and experienced it time and time again. So who knows how she would have felt about the remaining groups?

Her focus at this point should be school and grades, and using natural opportunities of classes and activities to meet and get to know actives. In competitive schools, chapters frequently COB among friends of friends--quietly. She should let GL office know she is interested. The groups extending COB bids in the spring may well be the same ones she rejected.

And yes, "Not Feeling A Connection" in large recruitments with 70+ new member classes and 250+ chapter size is frequently, though not always, code for "They seemed weird", "They had girls of diverse sizes", "My boyfriend's fraternity doesn't exchange with them", "My Rho Chi group trash talks them".

DubaiSis · #**270** 08-25-2015, 04:38 PM

You're missing the point. And let me put it a bit more bluntly. All but maybe 1 chapter at Mizzou are at total. For COB to be an option the chapter has to not yet be at total or drop below due to dropouts, transfers or graduations. Even the smallest chapter there is large and diverse. Not feeling a connection is a silly answer, with 250+ girls in the chapter and she met MAYBE 10 in each chapter. The young lady in question had 2 opportunities and declined them. I would consider future options this year to be zero.

And when people talk about strongest recruiting chapters where it applies to grades, yes the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but the fact is the strongest chapters normally have the best grades. Because they choose their membership very carefully.

I do wish her the best of luck, but she had her chance at an SEC school and declined it. She likely won't have another chance. Thankfully you don't have to be in a sorority to have a positive college experience at a school this size.