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Old 12-09-2014, 12:30 PM
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Unfortunately, we still live in a culture where there are double-standards about male and female sexuality. Men are still seen as being on the hunt for sex, and women are still seen as needing to protect their virtue
YUP. In addition to everything you mentioned about slut-shaming, these things also play into the notion that guys have to "get some" to be manly or something. There's the question of, "why would you ever want to have sex with someone who didn't ENTHUSIASTICALLY consent?" Surely it's not *that* physically pleasurable to have sex with someone who is not actively participating. But if you feel that the act is somehow tied into your masculinity, you are less likely to back off and jerk it the next morning.

Oh, which are other points that occurred to me as I was writing this: there's no reason that masturbation should be taboo, there's no reason that penis-in-vagina sex should be considered differently from other sex acts, and in general, a lot of our Neo-Victorian norms about sex lead to less good sex for everyone.
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:43 PM
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There's the question of, "why would you ever want to have sex with someone who didn't ENTHUSIASTICALLY consent?"
People have consensual sex all the time when they do not have the same level of desire or enthusiasm. And that does not just include marital sex.

Who knew that extreme feminism would try to turn the mechanics of sex into such a soul-sucking, lawyer-driven transaction, overseen by an army of campus administrators pouring over the minute details of individual sexual encounters.
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Old 12-09-2014, 02:35 PM
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Who knew that extreme feminism would try to turn the mechanics of sex into such a soul-sucking, lawyer-driven transaction, overseen by an army of campus administrators pouring over the minute details of individual sexual encounters.
"Extreme feminism" didn't do that. Patriarchy and sexism did that and it began centuries ago once humans started the "man as dominant" thing and realized that a penis can go inside a vagina, mouth, and butthole.

But, just as with the UVA thread, when all else fails blame feminism (extreme or not). That'll teach those damn feminists.

Both women and men should be responsible and should be held accountable. That's what feminism's original purpose is before people get to different waves and interpretations--gender equality from start to finish.

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Old 12-09-2014, 02:52 PM
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Both women and men should be responsible and should be held accountable. That's what feminism's original purpose is before people get to different waves and interpretations--gender equality from start to finish.
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately that's not where we are today.
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Old 12-09-2014, 02:58 PM
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I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately that's not where we are today.
Partly for two reasons:
1. People like you pretend feminism started this nonsense.
2. People like you equate the range of sexual victimization across billions of people with "turn the mechanics of sex into such a soul-sucking, lawyer-driven transaction, overseen by an army of campus administrators pouring over the minute details of individual sexual encounters".
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:02 PM
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Partly for two reasons:
1. People like you pretend feminism started this nonsense.
2. People like you equate the range of sexual victimization across billions of people with "turn the mechanics of sex into such a soul-sucking, lawyer-driven transaction, overseen by an army of campus administrators pouring over the minute details of individual sexual encounters".
"People like me". LOL!
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:05 PM
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"People like me". LOL!
I'm going based on your comments. Are you not posting based on your opinion? Let us know.
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