THE "bottom" sorority

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by 33girl

On the other side of amiblue's post, it could have been that once they got to college, they realized many of their high school friendships were those of proximity rather than of true emotional connection. "Friendly terms" isn't the same as being friends, and she simply may not have been someone they cared about enough to fight for or to risk their reputation fighting for. I know that sucks to hear, but it's a good lesson to learn, especially nowadays when "friend" has such a different meaning than it used to and so much fake intimacy exists, especially at that age.

This is also possible, but my point is that the OP and her daughter can't and won't know what happened. There's no point in harboring resentment over what may or may not have happened.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

This is also possible, but my point is that the OP and her daughter can't and won't know what happened. There's no point in harboring resentment over what may or may not have happened.

I agree. There's also the possibility that those girls didn't fight for her because they knew she'd be miserable and not fit in. At any rate, what's done is done.

[irishpipes]

For those saying that not having a house is not an obstacle, let me assure you that it is. I can tell which chapter and which school this is. It is NOT easy to find a place to "meet up" when there are over 100 in your new member class alone. I am not saying it means her experience won't be worthwhile, but not having a house makes it very difficult to have a "home base."

To the OP, maybe it would help for her to look at websites/Facebook pages of other chapters of her sorority. That could help her realize that it is more than just the microcosm of her University. There are places where girls would kill to wear her letters. Every single NPC has strong and weak chapters. At least she is enjoying her chapter sisters and hopefully her new member class can get involved on campus and with each other and make a dent in that tough "new sorority" label. In the end, your sorority doesn't make you top tier or bottom tier. Be a top tier person. Make people say, "she's an XYZ?"

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

For those saying that not having a house is not an obstacle, let me assure you that it is. I can tell which chapter and which school this is. It is NOT easy to find a place to "meet up" when there are over 100 in your new member class alone. I am not saying it means her experience won't be worthwhile, but not having a house makes it very difficult to have a "home base."

Can you really truly get to know 100 girls even if you do have a house?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that it's not an obstacle, but getting to know your sisters without a house is entirely possible if you work at it.

Perhaps a private Facebook group for the pledge class would give them all a way to communicate and plan social events, study groups, etc.

[carnation]

ASTAlum, it is tantamount to social suicide on that particular campus not to have a house. It's part of the culture.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by carnation

ASTAlum, it is tantamount to social suicide on that particular campus not to have a house. It's part of the culture.

Originally Posted by pinksequins

Many thoughts, but here are a couple that may help. First, if it is an SE C university, the chapter WILL be getting a house. (Competitive housing is a must, and often the house will be new, large with ample opportunity for events and living in.). For now, she may have more opportunities to bond with other new members due to their weekly meetings and activities. She can reach out to some of them to see if they want to go for pizza afterwards or to a movie or other activity -- something outside of the planned sorority activities and impromptu or informal. The new member classes at SEC schools are huge. They meet regularly and are full of young women looking to make these new friendships. My hunch is that she can find and quickly make good friends with some new members, which in turn can make her feel good about her chapter.

I don't think anyone ever said that she should be happy with the group not having a house or that they should stay unhoused. The point is that there are many other ways to meet and bond with people other than living in a house. You have to do extra work in this situation. It sounds like the daughter is willing to do so.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't think anyone ever said that she should be happy with the group not having a house or that they should stay unhoused. The point is that there are many other ways to meet and bond with people other than living in a house. You have to do extra work in this situation. It sounds like the daughter is willing to do so.

No, Mom only said that the daughter was starting to enjoy the girls. And regarding your point, there may be some ways to bond but when it comes down to it, they will be rejected by many, many PNMs who want the sorority house experience.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by carnation

ASTAlum, it is tantamount to social suicide on that particular campus not to have a house. It's part of the culture.

Again, the OP didn't address the reputation of the chapter in relation to them not having a house. She asked how the sisters were supposed to get to know each other without one. I'm simply speaking to that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Again, the OP didn't address the reputation of the chapter in relation to them not having a house. She asked how the sisters were supposed to get to know each other without one. I'm simply speaking to that.

Exactly. No one is saying a chapter that participates in regular rush at such a school will be successful long term without a house. THEY WON'T. But the mother made it sound like it was impossible for any of them to gather - even a fraction of the members - without a house.

What are the chapter's plans? What's the timeline? Is there temporary housing? Perhaps everyone saying "you don't know how it is" should be a little more forthcoming, since apparently everyone and their ferret knows what school this is.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

In the end, your sorority doesn't make you top tier or bottom tier. Be a top tier person. Make people say, "she's an XYZ?"

This is what matters now and then every where else in life.