Everyone's a little bit racist...

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

I think if 2 people are speaking in Spanish and you comment in Spanish that is COURTESY.

LOL. So between the exchange between the 2 cashiers and you finishing, there is no other interaction? Are you and the cashier standing in silence? I always get at least a "Hi. How are you? Did you find everything OK?" or SOMETHING. I don't think I've ever been in a service situation where the employee wasn't at least familiar with the common language of the area. If the person can say "Hi, how are you" I'm sure they'll understand "thank you"

I feel like this would be like someone seeing me in line and saying "Yo yo yo, you be findin errythang alright homie" or something thinking I'd feel more at home with that. No need for all the extra. A simple "Hi there" is more than enough.

(this was not a slam at you DubaiSis )

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

LOL. So between the exchange between the 2 cashiers and you finishing, there is no other interaction? Are you and the cashier standing in silence? I always get at least a "Hi. How are you? Did you find everything OK?" or SOMETHING. I don't think I've ever been in a service situation where the employee wasn't at least familiar with the common language of the area. If the person can say "Hi, how are you" I'm sure they'll understand "thank you"

I feel like this would be like someone seeing me in line and saying "Yo yo yo, you be findin errythang alright homie" or something thinking I'd feel more at home with that. No need for all the extra. A simple "Hi there" is more than enough.

(this was not a slam at you DubaiSis )

I actually had something similar happen to me many years ago. I used to work group sales in a hotel. I was giving a tour of the hotel to a prospective group that was of Hispanic origin. Can't remember the name of the group now 10 years later...? Anyway, we were touring (in English) and one person broke off to use the restroom. She came out, and one of her colleagues asked her (in Spanish) in front of me if the bathrooms were clean. She replies (in Spanish) yes. Me (my blonde hair, blue eyed self) turns around and says "Glad to hear our bathrooms are clean!" And they all giggled. Point being, they totally thought they were having a sidebar conversation that I couldn't possibly understand!

Was it racist of me to respond? Serious question. God, I hope not! I was just responding to a conversation that was being had in my midst in a language I understood and speak.

Discuss. I'm now curious...

[robinseggblue]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

LOL. So between the exchange between the 2 cashiers and you finishing, there is no other interaction? Are you and the cashier standing in silence? I always get at least a "Hi. How are you? Did you find everything OK?" or SOMETHING. I don't think I've ever been in a service situation where the employee wasn't at least familiar with the common language of the area. If the person can say "Hi, how are you" I'm sure they'll understand "thank you"

I feel like this would be like someone seeing me in line and saying "Yo yo yo, you be findin errythang alright homie" or something thinking I'd feel more at home with that. No need for all the extra. A simple "Hi there" is more than enough.

(this was not a slam at you DubaiSis )

I assumed yes and no. I do not always get "Hi" from a cashier. I have it happen sometimes that the cashier is talking in a foreign language to someone else in the store while ringing me up, doesn't say a word to me. If that's the situation and you know that it's Spanish then I don't see a "Gracias" as more than saying thank you.

If a cashier clearly speaks English or you try to guess the language, I have issues.

[33girl]

If I had Indians at lunch, I wouldn't have the faintest clue what they eat or don't eat. It's not my job to know the food preferences of every ethnic group and religion on the planet. I simply don't give a rat's ass. I would most likely have a meatless option just because there are MANY reasons people don't eat meat. Someone I worked with thought I was a vegetarian. No, not in the least, I just 1) don't want to order a steak at lunch and 2) don't want to choke down the dried out tasteless chicken breast that's in oh so very many of the lunch options at the places we ate most often. I'd rather eat no meat than bleah meat.

To ask only a certain ethnic group what they want is not only racist, it's ignorant to the rest of the attendees who don't get a choice. This is pretty much the definition of the "what happens when we assume" phrase.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If I had Indians at lunch, I wouldn't have the faintest clue what they eat or don't eat. It's not my job to know the food preferences of every ethnic group and religion on the planet. I simply don't give a rat's ass. I would most likely have a meatless option just because there are MANY reasons people don't eat meat. Someone I worked with thought I was a vegetarian. No, not in the least, I just 1) don't want to order a steak at lunch and 2) don't want to choke down the dried out tasteless chicken breast that's in oh so very many of the lunch options at the places we ate most often. I'd rather eat no meat than bleah meat.

To ask only a certain ethnic group what they want is not only racist, it's ignorant to the rest of the attendees who don't get a choice. This is pretty much the definition of the "what happens when we assume" phrase.

It's also pretty ignorant to lump all Indians into one group. Hindus have very different dietary rules than Muslims, which are different from Sikhs, which are different from Jains, etc. India is very different from region to region.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

It's also pretty ignorant to lump all Indians into one group. Hindus have very different dietary rules than Muslims, which are different from Sikhs, which are different from Jains, etc. India is very different from region to region.

I think 33girl was simply responding based on what SoCalGirl said:

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Here's another "racist/prejudice or not scenario".

All day meetings are being planned at work. The admin in charge of ordering food responds to an email to call out if certain attendees need vegetarian meals. All the names are Indian.

And quite frankly, I don't know all of the dietary restrictions of every group/region in India. Heck, I didn't even know there were specific differences based on such things. It's not anyone's job to know. I don't think that's ignorance. Ignorant would be assuming that every Indian person eats in exactly the same way. Or that every American living in Arkansas eats the same way. Or that every Christian eats the same way.

The point is, everyone has preferences, and some people are pickier than others and/or they have things that they simply can't eat. And if you know you have dietary restrictions, you either a) let someone know ahead of time, or b) suck it up and bring your own food. But the last thing you do is complain when someone provides you with food that you don't like (unless you made specific requests ahead of time).

[naraht]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

And quite frankly, I don't know all of the dietary restrictions of every group/region in India. Heck, I didn't even know there were specific differences based on such things. It's not anyone's job to know. I don't think that's ignorance. Ignorant would be assuming that every Indian person eats in exactly the same way. Or that every American living in Arkansas eats the same way. Or that every Christian eats the same way.

I agree with the above, but a couple of points. First, I believe that you can separate religious dietary needs from personal dietary needs and secondly most places that do catering, will have a vegetarian option.

Oddly enough, the only religion that I know of (and I've had coworkers from a wide variety of South Asian founded religions) that has restrictions on what plants can be eaten is Judaism. This falls into two areas, first the restrictions on grains during passover (so even the vegetarian wraps don't work there) and second, "Orlah" which is the prohibition on eating tree fruit from the first three years of production. (Leviticus 19:23) (And Orlah doesn't really apply outside the Land of Israel)

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I think 33girl was simply responding based on what SoCalGirl said:

I wasn't directing that at 33girl. I was agreeing with her point that making assumptions is dumb.