University of Mississippi - Ole Miss 2014 Panhellenic Sorority Recruitment

[Giddy]

To Heart to Heart: "...she finally broke down and told one of the ladies that another sorority was her favorite. We will never know for sure if she was cut from that chapter that night because of what she reveled to that Alum, or if the actives just didn't have her high enough on their list. "

Not to diminish your daughters experience -- but given the competitive nature of OM Rush -- those Alums were likely focused on helping their chapter make quota. Let's be honest. Your daughter wasn't sold on that chapter who cut her. And her being honest allowed another PNM on the list who may not have gotten there otherwise. I'd call that a good outcome. The only thing your daughter sacrificed was bragging-rights for hitting the top-tier lottery. These days that's likely harder and harder to achieve. She can only accept one. The girls I fret about are the ones that OM Alums don't pursue and pester.

If the only problem your daughter had during rush was being "pressured" by pushy Alums -- then she must have had a great rush. Your complaints sound suspiciously like bragging. Which is a bit off-putting. I read your comments from last year. More of the same.

Ole Miss rush is always the one to watch. It also happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments. I'm sure this year will be no exception.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Giddy

To Heart to Heart: "...she finally broke down and told one of the ladies that another sorority was her favorite. We will never know for sure if she was cut from that chapter that night because of what she reveled to that Alum, or if the actives just didn't have her high enough on their list. "

Not to diminish your daughters experience -- but given the competitive nature of OM Rush -- those Alums were likely focused on helping their chapter make quota. Let's be honest. Your daughter wasn't sold on that chapter who cut her. And her being honest allowed another PNM on the list who may not have gotten there otherwise. I'd call that a good outcome. The only thing your daughter sacrificed was bragging-rights for hitting the top-tier lottery. These days that's likely harder and harder to achieve. She can only accept one. The girls I fret about are the ones that OM Alums don't pursue and pester.

If the only problem your daughter had during rush was being "pressured" by pushy Alums -- then she must have had a great rush. Your complaints sound suspiciously like bragging. Which is a bit off-putting. I read your comments from last year. More of the same.

Ole Miss rush is always the one to watch. It also happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments. I'm sure this year will be no exception.

QFP

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Giddy

Not to diminish your daughters experience -- but given the competitive nature of OM Rush -- those Alums were likely focused on helping their chapter make quota. Let's be honest. Your daughter wasn't sold on that chapter who cut her.

Your post was confusing in general to me -- though I was wondering, why do you think alums of any chapter at Ole Miss would be worried about making quota?

I don't think that would be the likely motivation.

I've known of some nosey alum moms who text their daughters' friends all during recruitment week, and then spread their "intel" around.

Just a really bad idea -- foremost for the girls, and also in terms of risk for the alum's respective chapter.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Giddy

Ole Miss rush is always the one to watch. It also happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments. I'm sure this year will be no exception.

Interesting comment.... "civil" is certainly not one of the adjectives that I have ever heard used applied to Ole Miss recruitment!

[Hearttoheart]

Originally Posted by Giddy

To Heart to Heart:


If the only problem your daughter had during rush was being "pressured" by pushy Alums -- then she must have had a great rush. Your complaints sound suspiciously like bragging. Which is a bit off-putting. I read your comments from last year. More of the same.

At the risk of giving away too much personal information, I have to say that from where I come from.... Them's fightin' words.

How in the world can you think that by my exposing the dirty tactics of alumnae that I am bragging??? It's not okay for the actives to contact the girls, and it shouldn't be allowed for active alumnae to do the same. It made us both extremely uncomfortable. Judging from the necessity of the new rules this year, I'm thinking I'm not the only one who had this experience last year.

I'm just a mom who had a ringside seat last year to the experiences of a freshman OOS PNM. This year I have been treated to another ringside seat to the experiences of a sophomore on the other side of recruitment. You can take my advice or leave it, but I do have a considerable amount of in site into the Ole Miss recruitment experience!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ole Miss does not have a bad sorority! Even ADPi who just recolonized last year ended up with an amazing group of women! My daughter has friends in every house and has yet to encounter a girl who is unhappy! She doesn't buy into the tier system and neither do I.

I sincerely apologize if I have rubbed you the wrong way! Yes, my daughter had a very successful recruitment. She was a very happy girl on bid day. She was also in the grove on adpi's bid day cheering on her friends who experienced the devastating heartbreak of being released from formal recruitment. We are not bad people who go around bragging! However, as a mom who is proud of her daughter, from time to time I might get a little carried away in highlighting her accomplishments. I am sorry if I offended you.

Bottom line: it's about time somebody reeled in the over zealous active alumnae!

[33girl]

The poster who addressed you likes to come around to the Ole Miss rush thread every year (like Punxsutawney Phil) and tell us all Why We're Doing It Wrong.

[Hearttoheart]

After sleeping on it, I need to clarify one thing. The Ole Miss alumnae are every bit as incredible as the active members. They honestly love and care for their houses and the girls in them (current and future). I might have portrayed them a little too harsh! I think these ladies work harder than the active girls do and for that I thank them! Throughout the year they provide loving support to the girls. Even as my daughter was going through recruitment, they were there to calm her.

So to all the ladies I have just offended, a big ole I'm sorry!

I still agree with the new silence rules, but have to admit you ladies are incredible. A great example is greekchats very own Mary Poppins. She is there throughout the year with incredible advice, but has gone silent since last Sunday. Props to all the Mary Poppins out there.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by Hearttoheart

After sleeping on it, I need to clarify one thing. The Ole Miss alumnae are every bit as incredible as the active members. They honestly love and care for their houses and the girls in them (current and future). I might have portrayed them a little too harsh! I think these ladies work harder than the active girls do and for that I thank them! Throughout the year they provide loving support to the girls. Even as my daughter was going through recruitment, they were there to calm her.

So to all the ladies I have just offended, a big ole I'm sorry!

I still agree with the new silence rules, but have to admit you ladies are incredible. A great example is greekchats very own Mary Poppins. She is there throughout the year with incredible advice, but has gone silent since last Sunday. Props to all the Mary Poppins out there.

You did nothing wrong and have nothing to apologize for. You responded factually to a statement that had been raised concerning alumnae overstepping their bounds during rush at Mississippi. Those alumnae did overstep their bounds. They knew exactly that their actions would cause undue pressure on the PNMs they contacted-and if they didn't they are extremely insensitive. It could have, and may have, cost some girls a bid. Giddy can try to spin it however she (?) wants, but we know alumnae calling PNMs during recruitment is WRONG and is against the rules!

To Giddy: Had the alums not contacted H2H daughter, and had she chosen to place that chapter low on her list and gotten the invitations she had hoped for, then the computer program would have moved another PNM up on that sorority's list. All their available slots would have been filled.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by Giddy

Ole Miss...happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments.

Sorry, but........FOFLMAO!

[MU2Driver]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giddy
Ole Miss...happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments.

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Sorry, but........FOFLMAO!

I'm curious. What do you find uncivil about Ole Miss's Recruitment? I can see it being described as highly competitive and highly stressful, with a small but persistent subgroup crossing some lines, but uncivil?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by MU2Driver

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giddy
Ole Miss...happens to be the most civil vis-a-vis other SEC recruitments.



I'm curious. What do you find uncivil about Ole Miss's Recruitment? I can see it being described as highly competitive and highly stressful, with a small but persistent subgroup crossing some lines, but uncivil?

I think the laughter comes from the interpretation of it as a bastion of civility as opposed to the other "rough & tumble" schools.

[Giddy]

This site is hilarious. You'd rather have someone tell a PNM to go fuk themselves because that's "genuine" versus someone who makes pleasant/polite conversation to PNMs they don't intend to offer a bid? Wow. Ever peruse Greek Rank at University of Michigan? Now there's a Greek recruitment without even a fig-leaf of civility. Don't know about you ladies-- but I'll take fake Ole Miss civility over blatant rejection and coarse/boorish behavior (and that's just the sorority comments mind you) any day. BTW -- Alabama's thread on Greek Rank during rush was almost as cringe-worthy as Michigan.

[33girl]

You do know that Greek r a n k isn't the same as going through rush, right? You do know that many of the posts there are made by non-Greeks and that there's nothing to verify someone's identity, right?

And if my other choice is harassing an 18 year old girl and causing her to live in fear that she might say the wrong thing to some dried up status obsessed old bat....yeah, I'll go with go f#&k yourself.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Giddy

This site is hilarious. You'd rather have someone tell a PNM to go fuk themselves because that's "genuine" versus someone who makes pleasant/polite conversation to PNMs they don't intend to offer a bid? Wow. Ever peruse Greek Rank at University of Michigan? Now there's a Greek recruitment without even a fig-leaf of civility. Don't know about you ladies-- but I'll take fake Ole Miss civility over blatant rejection and coarse/boorish behavior (and that's just the sorority comments mind you) any day. BTW -- Alabama's thread on Greek Rank during rush was almost as cringe-worthy as Michigan.

You sure have a lot of experience going through recruitment. Did you ever manage to join a sorority at any of those places?

Or are you just living the Greek life vicariously through Greek Rank?

Bless your heart.

[Stellastar1]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

You sure have a lot of experience going through recruitment. Did you ever manage to join a sorority at any of those places?

Or are you just living the Greek life vicariously through Greek Rank?

Bless your heart.

Great response. I think one of the MAJOR problems at Ole Miss are the alumnae in SOME of the sororities. They are way too involved in the bid lists. It has backfired several times. This feeds the poor mothers intent on making sure their daughters find the "right house". Last year on bid day, there were several parents at the dorms moving their daughters out. A sad part of Ole Miss rush.
The largest freshman class this year is 61% in state. I do think the out of state students may have an impact on some of this eventually.