University of Texas Recruitment 2014

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Here's the problem: that definition of hazing covers virtually EVERYTHING. You can't separate PNM's by room because some might feel bad? Okay. Now you can't have the president say hello to some PNM's and not others. Now you can't make PNM's sit in the back row during the skit. Now you can't rank PNM's on your bid list.

[snowflakemom]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Here's the problem: that definition of hazing covers virtually EVERYTHING. You can't separate PNM's by room because some might feel bad? Okay. Now you can't have the president say hello to some PNM's and not others. Now you can't make PNM's sit in the back row during the skit. Now you can't rank PNM's on your bid list.

I disagree that it covers everything. If PNMs were separated randomly, it would be ok but they're not. They're separated by girls they want and girls they don't want.

The problem isn't even really that they're separated. I'm sure that happens everywhere to some degree. The problem is that the one's they want are put in a room for conversation. The ones they don't want are put in a room with creepy jumping up and down that is called a "dance party".

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by snowflakemom

I disagree that it covers everything. If PNMs were separated randomly, it would be ok but they're not. They're separated by girls they want and girls they don't want.

The problem isn't even really that they're separated. I'm sure that happens everywhere to some degree. The problem is that the one's they want are put in a room for conversation. The ones they don't want are put in a room with creepy jumping up and down that is called a "dance party".

Look to every big recruitment school, SRC use rooms to separate the PNMs they want from the rest. It happens. All. The. Time. Is it wrong? No. It's their system and can have it's benefits, like introducing those women to the movers and shakers of the chapter. Do women who aren't in those rooms get bids? Sure, but they aren't the PNMs that are being fought for by the chapter's big competitors.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Look to every big recruitment school, SRC use rooms to separate the PNMs they want from the rest. It happens. All. The. Time. Is it wrong? No. It's their system and can have it's benefits, like introducing those women to the movers and shakers of the chapter. Do women who aren't in those rooms get bids? Sure, but they aren't the PNMs that are being fought for by the chapter's big competitors.

I wholeheartedly agree. It isn't wrong to separate PNMs and go out of the way to introduce top candidates to the movers and shakers. But that is different than just not talking to them altogether and ignoring them.

PNMs already feel vulnerable, do we really need to make the process more stressful engaging in different behaviors for different groups?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

I wholeheartedly agree. It isn't wrong to separate PNMs and go out of the way to introduce top candidates to the movers and shakers. But that is different than just not talking to them altogether and ignoring them.

PNMs already feel vulnerable, do we really need to make the process more stressful engaging in different behaviors for different groups?

But they do it to all PNMs, no matter how "desirable" they are. If a PNM can't look at the party and decide those girls are rude, write them off and move on, she's got bigger problems for life in the future. Not everyone will always be nice. I find it distasteful that this chapter would rather do this than actually talk to people, but no one is being singled out.