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08-17-2014, 03:41 PM
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Just to be clear, "guaranteed placement" means once they have been invited to preference party/ies. It is not common but unfortunately does happen that girls get cut completely from rush at some point before preference parties. As far as I know there is only one school where a girl is guaranteed admission into a sorority from day 1.
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Totally. And I understand why you needed to clarify.
I was surprised to learn though that basically, if I've understood the last few posts correctly, that if your campus using RFM that it also has guaranteed placement because I thought you could have one without the other.
When I looked at the UGA recruitment guide, they still mention "mismatch" for when girls who pref go bidless, but maybe this can only happen to girls who don't maximize their options on the bid card. Or maybe the just haven't update the glossary in The Pointer.
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08-17-2014, 03:49 PM
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I find guaranteed placement interesting from the standpoint of the sorority. In the past, pref could be one more look at a PNM. If the sorority didn't like that last look, they could place her low on the bid list and chances are, she would end up somewhere else. Now, sororities need to be sure that every PNM invited to pref is someone they want in their chapter. Even the girl dead last on the list could show up on bid day. I know this could have happened before as well, but it seems much more likely with guaranteed placement.
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08-17-2014, 04:02 PM
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If you're guaranteed a place if you make it to pref, couldn't a girl pretty much make sure she only had one party that she wanted?
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08-17-2014, 04:07 PM
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If you're guaranteed a place if you make it to pref, couldn't a girl pretty much make sure she only had one party that she wanted?
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No, because after pref is the only time that women get the chance to "cut" chapters, by not listing them. Unless you mean sabotage her parties...? That'd be a risky maneuver.
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08-17-2014, 04:11 PM
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If you're guaranteed a place if you make it to pref, couldn't a girl pretty much make sure she only had one party that she wanted?
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By acting horribly at most of her 3rd round parties, and nice at her favorite? That's a risky strategy...word gets around, and she very well might end up with nothing.
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08-17-2014, 04:44 PM
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By acting horribly at most of her 3rd round parties, and nice at her favorite? That's a risky strategy...word gets around, and she very well might end up with nothing.
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This just came up on another thread...the number of women who have not just friends, but ROOMMATES or BIOLOGICAL SISTERS in other chapters.
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08-17-2014, 04:47 PM
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I swear that some of those girls in the Weird Rush Stories thread had to be trying that.
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08-17-2014, 05:57 PM
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If you're guaranteed a place if you make it to pref, couldn't a girl pretty much make sure she only had one party that she wanted?
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No because someone will invite her and that means she'd have to list both and she may end up with the one she didn't really want. No, you can't play it like that and be successful.
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08-17-2014, 04:12 PM
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Totally. And I understand why you needed to clarify.
I was surprised to learn though that basically, if I've understood the last few posts correctly, that if your campus using RFM that it also has guaranteed placement because I thought you could have one without the other.
When I looked at the UGA recruitment guide, they still mention "mismatch" for when girls who pref go bidless, but maybe this can only happen to girls who don't maximize their options on the bid card. Or maybe the just haven't update the glossary in The Pointer.
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You and I are on the same wavelength. To me, RFM is simply a tool to give rushees a more realistic idea of where they could receive a bid. The way we're talking about it here almost makes it seem like the chapters with the best return rates have to make their decisions on day one of rush.
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08-17-2014, 04:18 PM
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The way we're talking about it here almost makes it seem like the chapters with the best return rates have to make their decisions on day one of rush.
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If the chapters with high return rates don't make their decisions early, then there will be PNMs without invites at later parties because the more realistic Chapters had dropped off their radar as the number of parties decreased each round.
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08-17-2014, 05:59 PM
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If the chapters with high return rates don't make their decisions early, then there will be PNMs without invites at later parties because the more realistic Chapters had dropped off their radar as the number of parties decreased each round.
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They have a set number they can invite back and it's based on their historical acceptances. So a top group may have to release 30% on the first invitational. It's pretty heavy numbers for some groups. You can't include someone you really don't want when this is the case. And it's the whole point of RFM. Every group could have a different number to invite to each round.
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08-17-2014, 09:43 PM
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They have a set number they can invite back and it's based on their historical acceptances. So a top group may have to release 30% on the first invitational. It's pretty heavy numbers for some groups. You can't include someone you really don't want when this is the case. And it's the whole point of RFM. Every group could have a different number to invite to each round.
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Ideally is wouldn't happen, but if a PNM gets to Round 3-Skit then has no invites for Pref they ranked incorrectly after round one or round 2 OR the Chapters she had for round 2 had too many invites.
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08-17-2014, 10:11 PM
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Ideally is wouldn't happen, but if a PNM gets to Round 3-Skit then has no invites for Pref they ranked incorrectly after round one or round 2 OR the Chapters she had for round 2 had too many invites.
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I am not sure about this. I know pnms who had invites for round 3 but were released after that, so no pref invites. Without going into too much detail, this came from both strong and weak recruiting chapters.
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08-17-2014, 11:11 PM
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I am not sure about this. I know pnms who had invites for round 3 but were released after that, so no pref invites. Without going into too much detail, this came from both strong and weak recruiting chapters.
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I think it can work both ways: WRC's sometimes release women who seem set on SRC's, too. The point is the RFM tries to mitigate these types of situations, not that it's perfect.
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08-17-2014, 07:17 PM
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Or maybe the just haven't update the glossary in The Pointer.
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I'm betting this. With the exception of new pictures, the 2014 Pointer looks remarkably like my 1993 Pointer. Which, yes, I still have.
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