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Old 07-13-2014, 08:28 AM
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It is eugenics because they are targeting particular demographics.
People who can't afford to have children seems like a legitimate demographic to focus on.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:45 AM
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People who can't afford to have children seems like a legitimate demographic to focus on.
Because you believe in eugenics.

The average person in every socioeconomic status is financially and mentally-emotionally under-prepared for parenthood. Either preach to EVERYONE about birth control and parenthood preparation or preach to NO ONE. Do not only target lower socioeconomic statuses which will disproportionately target racial and ethnic minorities.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:19 AM
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Because you believe in eugenics.

The average person in every socioeconomic status is financially and mentally-emotionally under-prepared for parenthood. Either preach to EVERYONE about birth control and parenthood preparation or preach to NO ONE. Do not only target lower socioeconomic statuses which will disproportionately target racial and ethnic minorities.
I'm not sure it would disproportionately target racial and ethnic minorities. There are more poor whites than any other minority. But so what if it does? We could eliminate generational poverty in a generation or two.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:07 AM
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I'm not sure it would disproportionately target racial and ethnic minorities. There are more poor whites than any other minority.
You need to learn what is meant by "disproportionate(ly)". Seriously. Read about it.

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But so what if it does? We could eliminate generational poverty in a generation or two.
Wow. Have you not kept up with the failed attempts of the past 50+ years? Read. Before you rally behind any law and policy. Read. Read. Read. Everything that appears new is old.

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Old 07-13-2014, 11:15 AM
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Wow. Have you not kept up with the failed attempts of the past 50+ years? Read. Before you rally behind any law and policy. Read. Read. Read.
^^^this. You want to teach people to fish rather than give them a fish? The make sure education works at all levels and ages. You want to prevent people from becoming disabled? Have a healthcare system that works for all socioeconomic groups not just the well to do. You want folks to be working? Don't allow companies to profit off of the community if they do not participate in the community (no drug sales to populace if you don't pay taxes and employ people from the populace.)
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:01 PM
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^^^this. You want to teach people to fish rather than give them a fish? The make sure education works at all levels and ages. You want to prevent people from becoming disabled? Have a healthcare system that works for all socioeconomic groups not just the well to do. You want folks to be working? Don't allow companies to profit off of the community if they do not participate in the community (no drug sales to populace if you don't pay taxes and employ people from the populace.)
I'm resigned to the fact that even if we spent trillions of dollars on public education and welfare and trying to teach people to fish, they're not going to do it. There are people who refuse to make positive life choices no matter what their opportunities are. It would be wise to entice them to make a voluntary choice to sterilize themselves.

In the past, these sorts of agendas just weren't ambitious enough and were blatantly targeted towards racial minorities. I would say make sterilization and payment available to anyone who wants it. Are meth heads looking for cash for their next fix going to disproportionately take this pay day? I hope so!

What are your solutions to these problems? Bitching endlessly about privilege?
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:39 PM
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It would be wise to entice them to make a voluntary choice to sterilize themselves.
Only based on your definition of "wise".

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In the past, these sorts of agendas just weren't ambitious enough and were blatantly targeted towards racial minorities.
I encourage you to research the "ambition" of past agendas. Targeting the poor and targeting drug addicts is eugenics. The racial component is an added detriment of eugenics. It isn't THE detriment of eugenics.

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Are meth heads looking for cash for their next fix going to disproportionately take this pay day? I hope so!
And Adolf Hitler's eugenics and racial cleansing were simply about pride and intellectual-educational-economic success. The world is all the better because of Hitler. Folks are just too ungrateful and shortsighted to see.

(Does Kevin now know the definition of "disproportionately"?)

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Old 07-13-2014, 11:19 AM
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I'm not sure it would disproportionately target racial and ethnic minorities. There are more poor whites than any other minority. But so what if it does? We could eliminate generational poverty in a generation or two.
You're a sicko. That's all I've got.
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