Universities Under Investigation Re: Handling Sexual Assault

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

This thread is indicative of the mentality of many here:

Most people in the thread in which you are posting did not say the accuser should automatically be believed.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Most people in the thread in which you are posting did not say the accuser should automatically be believed.

I don't think anyone has actually said that the accuser should automatically believed. However, in practice, that Duke LaCrosse incident certainly showed the intense biases of many here to believe the accuser no matter how much her story doesn't pass the smell test. (or in that case, the DNA tests)

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't think anyone has actually said that the accuser should automatically believed.

Because many of us do not believe the accuser should automatically be believed. ETA1: That was covered in the first two pages of this thread.

ETA2: Do not go based on a 2006 thread in which much of the tone was rooted in GC Race Wars and overall U.S.A. racial dynamics; how people feel about college athletes; and how people feel about strippers. That 2006 thread was about more than rape allegations and woman-man sexual relations.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Because many of us do not believe the accuser should automatically be believed.

And yet "many" thought the Duke LaCrosse accuser should be taken at her word. Many do a pretty piss poor job of accounting for their own personal biases.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

And yet "many" thought the Duke LaCrosse accuser should be taken at her word.

Back in 2006 and based on opinions regarding race, college athletes, and strippers.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Back in 2006 and based on opinions regarding race, college athletes, and strippers.

Just have a look at that thread. I sure as hell wouldn't want Royal Ivy on a jury if I was accused of rape. The DNA comes back negative and to her mind, these guys just somehow tampered with the evidence. Some of the assumptions people made in that case were beyond ridiculous.

Do you think we've come a long way since 2006 and that since then, no men have been victimized by false allegations of rape?

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Just have a look at that thread. I sure as hell wouldn't want Royal Ivy on a jury if I was accused of rape. The DNA comes back negative and to her mind, these guys just somehow tampered with the evidence. Some of the assumptions people made in that case were beyond ridiculous.

Do you think we've come a long way since 2006 and that since then, no men have been victimized by false allegations of rape?

There are about a dozen current lawsuits in the courts right now brought by college men against their universities. And surely more to come, since so many schools are desperately trying to get on the "right side" of the OCR.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Just have a look at that thread.

I remember that thread very well. The fact remains that thread (and the public outcry over the Duke Lacrosse situation) was rooted in more than rape allegations.

It is an unfounded assumption to come into this thread citing that 2006 thread. Use comments from this thread if you want to accuse GCers of bias.