Universities Under Investigation Re: Handling Sexual Assault

[DrPhil]

Is this your version of a flounce? Have all of your posts been polite and mature? Someone who claims to have read GC for a while and randomly decided to grind an ax in this thread would know that this thread was taking a certain tone once you were suspected of trolling. I don't think you're trolling but you definitely have an ax to grind that prevents you from comprehending anyone other than yourself. I think you're a sock puppet or some equivalent.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Is this your version of a flounce? Someone who claims to have read GC for a while and randomly decided to grind an ax in this thread would know that this thread was taking a certain tone once you were suspected of trolling. I don't think you're trolling but you definitely have an ax to grind that prevents you from comprehending anyone other than yourself.

I've asked you a very simple and specific question three times now, about your rude behavior earlier where you wrote something and pretended to be quoting me. I have never posted on a message board where people did that, because if they tried, they got called out for it.

Do you routinely do it, or is it a one time thing?

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Do you routinely do it, or is it a one time thing?

Hello, false dichotomy!

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Hello, false dichotomy!

LOL, yes well, I guess there's the possibility he's done it a few times. No one else here seems the slightest bit shocked by it, so I'm guessing it's not a one time thing. Really bad form in the message board world I've been in. YMMV.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Do you do this a lot, Dr. Phil? I'm asking because if the answer is yes. I'd rather not waste my time on a message board that would allow it. It's rude and extremely childish.

People who post things like this:

Originally Posted by honorgal

Oh goody, you passed Gender Studies 101 with flying colors.

have ceded the high ground and are not in a particularly good position for calling others out on rude and childish behavior.

You've raised some valid points, some of which many posters—including Dr. Phil (who is a she, btw)—appear to agree with. Unfortunately, your valid points are getting lost in the overly-combative, ax-grinding tone of your posts.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

People who post things like this:have ceded the high ground and are not in a particularly good position for calling others out on rude and childish behavior.

You've raised some valid points, some of which many posters—including Dr. Phil (who is a she, btw)—appear to agree with. Unfortunately, your valid points are getting lost in the overly-combative, ax-grinding tone of your posts.

Oh please. I've gone back and read the thread. If you did the same you'd see that I was simply responding to Dr. Phil's combativeness.

As for ax grinding, i do have strong opinions on this particular subject, from several different angles. Is that not encouraged?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Oh please. I've gone back and read the thread. If you did the same you'd see that I was simply responding to Dr. Phil's combativeness.

I too have gone back and read the thread, and the idea that you were simply responding to her combativeness is bull. She said she agreed with much of what you said, but then disagreed with one specific statement you made—that what she called gender inequalities you call biology. You responded:

Originally Posted by honorgal

The irony and hypocrisy of this faux rape crisis are entirely lost on you, I see. It would almost be funny if it didn't involve the actual well being of real young people.

She then asked questions to see if you understood why she disagreed with you, and it was you who got combative.

As for ax grinding, i do have strong opinions on this particular subject, from several different angles. Is that not encouraged?

Of course strong opinions are encouraged. Defending your strong opinions primarily with ad hominem arguments and dismissiveness, however, is not. Back up your strong opinions with good, objective arguments, not simply by writing off those who disagree with you, in whole or only in part, as "the hysteria crowd" or by telling them irony is lost on them. That's not the way to get anyone to take your arguments seriously.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I too have gone back and read the thread, and the idea that you were simply responding to her combativeness is bull. She said she agreed with much of what you said, but then disagreed with one specific statement you made—that what she called gender inequalities you call biology. You responded: She then asked questions to see if you understood why she disagreed with you, and it was you who got combative.

Of course strong opinions are encouraged. Defending your strong opinions primarily with ad hominem arguments and dismissiveness, however, is not. Back up your strong opinions with good, objective arguments, not simply by writing off those who disagree with you, in whole or only in part, as "the hysteria crowd" or by telling them irony is lost on them. That's not the way to get anyone to take your arguments seriously.

I have added plenty of facts, including the DOJ statistics, to back up my arguments. Again, I felt like I was simply matching my tone to hers. Until we got to the part where she fake quoted me. I welcome the give and take of argument and exchange of ideas but that is a huge red flag to me, either about her or about a community that allows (encourages?) it. I'm obviously new to posting here, so that's why I am trying to get a sense if it's just a random thing, or it happens a lot. Again, because I wouldn't want to waste my time. That's not a flounce. I don't know y'all, you don't know me. No one here will care if I ever post again, nor should they.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honorgal

I have added plenty of facts, including the DOJ statistics, to back up my arguments.

Yes, you have cited some things like the USDOJ statistics, though I'm not sure I'd go so far as "plenty." I'm just saying that the facts you've posted are getting lost in the overall tone, to the point where it's not completely clear what your argument is, other than that the "hysteria crowd" has run amok.

[DrPhil]

Speaking of irony and hypocrisy.

Anyway, Gender Studies 101 rocks and honorgal needs tutorials