Universities Under Investigation Re: Handling Sexual Assault

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Of course I do.

Men and women are having lots of boozy sex with each other on college campuses. This should be a good thing in the eyes of the campus feminists. And the men certainly aren't complaining. But some of the women are. Not only are they complaining, they are insisting that men have to change, become more chivalrous, treat women with the respect they deserve. It's almost comical. Almost. But keep telling us that we're pretty much the same.

Genius, that is gender inequality, patriarchy, and sexism like I said in my previous post.

That is not gender differences and biology. "Gender differences" means socially created differences between women and men. "Biology" means biological distinctions. Both gender differences and biological differences are exaggerated.

Gender inequality is about disparities like what you are typing about. Any form of difference isn't the problem. The problem is the origin and outcome of the differences.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Genius, that is gender inequality, patriarchy, and sexism like I said in my previous post.

That is not gender differences and biology. "Gender differences" means socially created differences between women and men. "Biology" means biological distinctions. Both gender differences and biological differences are exaggerated.

Gender inequality is about disparities like what you are typing about. Any form of difference isn't the problem. The problem is the origin and outcome of the differences.

Oh goody, you passed Gender Studies 101 with flying colors.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Drew Sterrett and other college men like him are systematically being denied even a modicum of due process. And as we've been told ad nauseum for weeks, there are so many more victims who just haven't come forward yet. Wait til the college beauracacy really gets going on tackling this "crisis".

The ends always justifies the means though.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Oh goody, you passed Gender Studies 101 with flying colors.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Drew Sterrett and other college men like him are systematically being denied even a modicum of due process. And as we've been told ad nauseum for weeks, there are so many more victims who just haven't come forward yet. Wait til the college beauracacy really gets going on tackling this "crisis".

The ends always justifies the means though.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Thank you for correcting my stupidity and teaching me something.

It took a few posts to get you here but you are quite welcome.

Perhaps you are a troll and DeltaBetaBaby had you figured out. You are typing to me about fairness to men and fairness to the accused perpetrator. That is what I have been typing about throughout this thread...you are late. Again, this back and forth between you and me came about because you unfoundedly believed this topic is about mere differences between genders and biological differences. You needed a Gender 101 course and now you are pretending you already knew all of that stuff. We wouldn't be having this discussion if you already knew this and didn't attempt to rebut my "gender inequality, sexism, and patriarchy" comment.

Originally Posted by honorgal

In fact, the authors of the survey claimed that an intoxicated person can't give consent to sexual contact. Whadaya know, I've been raped!!! What a crock.

You do know that concept did not originate with the authors of that survey, right?

General comment not in response to honorgal: I generally disagree that intoxicated (yet conscious) people cannot consent to sex and I believe that should be applied to women as well as men. However, since most sexual assaults and rapes are not random acts committed by strangers, there is potential for improvement when women and men focus on safety, reducing the celebration of risky behaviors, and ending "slut shaming".

Originally Posted by honorgal

Don't non-college women deserve protection? Why don't we throw out the constitution and due process for the non college men too?

ETA: College campuses are often a microcosm of society. There are similar dynamics outside of college campuses.