George Zimmerman had 5 guns when arrested

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

Very true. But it's the place where we work on changing the law of the land. This is relevant to a debate about what our gun laws OUGHT to be. I don't trust this guy, and I don't want him to have access to any guns, and being reminded how many he has legally is a good argument IMHO in favor of some tighter restrictions.

I deeply and passionately believe that no one should go to jail without being convicted based on evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. But if it were up to me, a "more likely than not" standard of dangerousness ought to be enough to take somebody's firearms away.

I don'[t trust Zimmerman either, but even less to I trust many of my fellow Americans to make a "more likely than not" determination. I do not want to get in to convicting someone and taking away liberties based on some possible act that someone might imagine in the future.

[Phrozen Sands]

His life has taken a serious nose-dive since his incident with Martin. It will probably get worse before it gets better. Karma.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DGTess

I don'[t trust Zimmerman either, but even less to I trust many of my fellow Americans to make a "more likely than not" determination. I do not want to get in to convicting someone and taking away liberties based on some possible act that someone might imagine in the future.

VAWA lets a judge do that without a hearing. At least on a temporary basis. I don't agree that it's Constitutional either, but without researching it even a little, it seems that such a temporary order would be technically difficult to package into an appealable case.

As for Zimmerman himself having guns, those of you who think he shouldn't, the man has had his life threatened on a number of occasions by total strangers including a domestic terror group, the New Black Panthers who have put a bounty on him for citizen's arrest, whatever that means.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/03....-Who-are-they

Under those circumstances, the man really should be carrying at all times.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Kevin

As for Zimmerman himself having guns, those of you who think he shouldn't, the man has had his life threatened on a number of occasions by total strangers including a domestic terror group, the New Black Panthers who have put a bounty on him for citizen's arrest, whatever that means.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/03....-Who-are-they

Under those circumstances, the man really should be carrying at all times.

I agree that he has a legitimate reason to carry now. But those threats wouldn't have existed if he had been responsible previously with the use of his firearms. I don't believe in street justice, but a lot of folk are still very angry over what they see as a grave injustice in the Trayvon Martin case.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I agree that he has a legitimate reason to carry now. But those threats wouldn't have existed if he had been responsible previously with the use of his firearms. I don't believe in street justice, but a lot of folk are still very angry over what they see as a grave injustice in the Trayvon Martin case.

Zimmerman is the only person alive who knows the truth of that statement.

[DrPhil]

Yes, yes...we know there were two people outside and one person is dead.

Such is the case for many deaths. I find irony in that if there had been evidence to convict Zimmerman in a court of law, people would have said things such as "the eyes of the law" or "evidence allowed Trayvon to speak from the grave" in order to contrast "Zimmerman is the only person alive who knows the truth of that statement". Suddenly Zimmerman being the only person alive wouldn't matter.