Cal Poly - SLO: Questionable Party Theme – Investigation

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Well, I said participating and tacitly encouraging—by not declining to participate.

No it doesn't touch on the racial issues at all, which are huge. And though I see your point, I just don't think I can go but so far with it. Anyone who participates in parties like this gets to share the blame.

As for how the men would respond, some would say lighten up, it's just a joke, and some would get the message. But as far as I'm concerned, it's not even really about trying to get the guys to change their ways. It's about refusing to participate in something that's demeaning, bigoted and tasteless.

Yes, it's called internalized misogyny, but really, my problem is those suggesting that the women are EQUALLY at fault or that the women could just stop it. Could they take steps against it? Sure. Historically, pretty much the only way a marginalized group has ever gotten more power has been to demand it. I'm just saying that "the women go along with it" isn't anything CLOSE to an excuse for men acting like assholes, nor does it mean they have an equal share in the problem.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I don't know how they plan mixers these days, but in my day, the two social chairs would discuss the theme, agree on something, and the social chair would bring it to chapter for a vote. The women had a ton of control over what kind of party it would be.

I did wonder if that was the case here.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yes, it's called internalized misogyny, but really, my problem is those suggesting that the women are EQUALLY at fault or that the women could just stop it. Could they take steps against it? Sure. Historically, pretty much the only way a marginalized group has ever gotten more power has been to demand it. I'm just saying that "the women go along with it" isn't anything CLOSE to an excuse for men acting like assholes, nor does it mean they have an equal share in the problem.

I wouldn't suggest that "the women go along with it" is ever an excuse for the bad behavior these guys. But to me, those who participate without questioning are only slightly less at fault than those who do the planning.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I wouldn't suggest that "the women go along with it" is ever an excuse for the bad behavior these guys. But to me, those who participate without questioning are only slightly less at fault than those who do the planning.

Everyone who attended this party and promoted it is EQUALLY at fault. If someone plans a party that I find offensive, I won't attend. If I do, it means I'm OK with it.

I mean, would you (the general you) argue that if a group held a KKK rally, and I attended and donned a white hood, that I wasn't as racist as the people who planned it?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Everyone who attended this party and promoted it is EQUALLY at fault. If someone plans a party that I find offensive, I won't attend. If I do, it means I'm OK with it.

I mean, would you (the general you) argue that if a group held a KKK rally, and I attended and donned a white hood, that I wasn't as racist as the people who planned it?

Are you a person of color? Because if not, this is a false equivalence.