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08-01-2013, 09:09 PM
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Ok, do NPHC groups often try to reach out to NIC or NPC groups on their campus? I understood the difficulty in trying to set up events do to scheduling, but at the time I was in school I would have loved to been able to learn more about the whole NPHC culture and how it differed from what I was experiencing. At the school there was a definite desperation between "white" groups and the "non-white" groups.
I came from a high school where we had friends from all walks....and then going off to college and joining the fraternity...I'll say it, it was as if the whole system was a "whites only" thing....it really bothered me becuase even at rush events we couldn't attract any minorities, they usually always went to the NPHC groups....it was I guess a sort of "you go your way, and we will go our way..."
I just don't understand, in this day and age why that was the case.
As for my original post...amiblue? why do you feel this is tiring? Are you opposed to race discussions?? Unfortunately this country will always have a race issue becuase people don't really want to talk about it, seems that most people just want it all be swept under a rug.
I would love for the entire world to think of us all as human beings first....forgetting the religious, ethnical, skin color, and all that....
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08-01-2013, 10:01 PM
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Ok, do NPHC groups often try to reach out to NIC or NPC groups on their campus? I understood the difficulty in trying to set up events do to scheduling, but at the time I was in school I would have loved to been able to learn more about the whole NPHC culture and how it differed from what I was experiencing. At the school there was a definite desperation between "white" groups and the "non-white" groups.
I came from a high school where we had friends from all walks....and then going off to college and joining the fraternity...I'll say it, it was as if the whole system was a "whites only" thing....it really bothered me becuase even at rush events we couldn't attract any minorities, they usually always went to the NPHC groups....it was I guess a sort of "you go your way, and we will go our way..."
I just don't understand, in this day and age why that was the case.
As for my original post...amiblue? why do you feel this is tiring? Are you opposed to race discussions?? Unfortunately this country will always have a race issue becuase people don't really want to talk about it, seems that most people just want it all be swept under a rug.
I would love for the entire world to think of us all as human beings first....forgetting the religious, ethnical, skin color, and all that....
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I said tiresome, not tiring. There is a difference. And I already told you in my post what I find tiresome: your pretended innocent, fence riding tone. Do you seriously not know what the problem with a white student union is? Were you recently transplanted here from Mars or are you just willfully obtuse?
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I participate in race related threads frequently. I also assert opinions. I don't have a problem with the conversation. My problem is with you and your lack of opinions while trying to stir the pot.
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08-01-2013, 10:40 PM
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Ok, do NPHC groups often try to reach out to NIC or NPC groups on their campus? I understood the difficulty in trying to set up events do to scheduling, but at the time I was in school I would have loved to been able to learn more about the whole NPHC culture and how it differed from what I was experiencing. At the school there was a definite desperationI think you mean disparity between "white" groups and the "non-white" groups.
I came from a high school where we had friends from all walks....and then going off to college and joining the fraternity...I'll say it, it was as if the whole system was a "whites only" thing....it really bothered me becuase even at rush events we couldn't attract any minorities, they usually always went to the NPHC groups....it was I guess a sort of "you go your way, and we will go our way..."
I just don't understand, in this day and age why that was the case.
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Do you really not understand this? I'm with amiblue?. I think you're playing dumb and I have no idea why you'd want to do that.
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08-01-2013, 10:49 PM
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Ok, do NPHC groups often try to reach out to NIC or NPC groups on their campus? I understood the difficulty in trying to set up events do to scheduling, but at the time I was in school I would have loved to been able to learn more about the whole NPHC culture and how it differed from what I was experiencing. At the school there was a definite desperation between "white" groups and the "non-white" groups.
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When I was an undergrad, no we really did not try to do too much with the "white" groups, as you put it.
I think what you don't understand is the purpose for existence of NPHC groups. NPHC orgs are not so much social orgs as NPC and IFC are, but instead we are about community service, with an emphasis for the AfAm community. Our programs and fundraisers target a variety of community service projects. One joins NPHC orgs not so much for their socializing, but because one feels an alignment with their community service programs.
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I came from a high school where we had friends from all walks....and then going off to college and joining the fraternity...I'll say it, it was as if the whole system was a "whites only" thing....it really bothered me becuase even at rush events we couldn't attract any minorities, they usually always went to the NPHC groups....it was I guess a sort of "you go your way, and we will go our way..."
I just don't understand, in this day and age why that was the case.
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NPHC orgs have a strong presence in the AfAm community, and that can impress an AfAm youngster to want to join that org. I typically don't see NPC and IFC orgs actively working in the AfAm community, so when AfAm kids go to college more often than not NPC and IFC orgs aren't on their radar.
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As for my original post...amiblue? why do you feel this is tiring? Are you opposed to race discussions?? Unfortunately this country will always have a race issue becuase people don't really want to talk about it, seems that most people just want it all be swept under a rug.
I would love for the entire world to think of us all as human beings first....forgetting the religious, ethnical, skin color, and all that....
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Sure.
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08-01-2013, 11:03 PM
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Ok, do NPHC groups often try to reach out to NIC or NPC groups on their campus? I understood the difficulty in trying to set up events do to scheduling, but at the time I was in school I would have loved to been able to learn more about the whole NPHC culture and how it differed from what I was experiencing. At the school there was a definite desperation between "white" groups and the "non-white" groups.
I came from a high school where we had friends from all walks....and then going off to college and joining the fraternity...I'll say it, it was as if the whole system was a "whites only" thing....it really bothered me becuase even at rush events we couldn't attract any minorities, they usually always went to the NPHC groups....it was I guess a sort of "you go your way, and we will go our way..."
I just don't understand, in this day and age why that was the case.
As for my original post...amiblue? why do you feel this is tiring? Are you opposed to race discussions?? Unfortunately this country will always have a race issue becuase people don't really want to talk about it, seems that most people just want it all be swept under a rug.
I would love for the entire world to think of us all as human beings first....forgetting the religious, ethnical, skin color, and all that....
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It seems you're making a few errors here. First, you seem to assume that there is such a thing as the AfAm community. Second, you're assuming NPHC=NIC/NPC for black people.
Both of those assumptions would be wrong. Just because we all have Greek letters doesn't mean we're all created for a similar purpose. I belong to a social fraternity. Service certainly is part of it, but it's definitely not the focus.
Now, yes, we've had co sponsored events with NPHC groups--had a great fish fry with the Deltas when I was an undergrad 10ish years ago... that should've become a thing... but as someone else said, those groups, at least on my campus are nowhere near our size and they already have plenty of programming without really needing to reach out.
It just seems you're assuming GLO=GLO, which is just wrong.
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