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Originally Posted by Titchou
Technically, I can call myself an alumna or an alumnus of Alabama but since they only have an Alumni Association I can only be a member of it. I can't make it Alumnae.
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No, but it's an Alumni Association because its members include males. That doesn't make every member on alumnus. A male member is an alumnus, a female member is an alumna, and collectively they are alumni.
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And alumnae rhymes with "knee" not "pie." You've got that part backwards. 3 years of Latin and 30 years as a Catholic when they only used Latin....not to mention the Delta Gamma crib sheet....
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Classical Latin and Church Latin are often pronounced differently, the latter having been influenced by later European languages, primarily Italian. But in both, the single vowel "i" is pronounced "ee" (or somewhere between "ee" and "ih"). So, alumni = "alum-nee" in Latin. Pronouncing it alum-nie (to rhyme with "pie") is an anglicization, much like pronouncing Phi "phie" rather than "phee" as it would be in Greek. English speakers have modified the "i" to an English long-I sound rather than using the "ee" that the letter represents in Latin or Greek, because we don't think "ee" when we see an "i."
As for "ae," in Classical Latin that represents the diphthong that English speakers consider the long-I sound, as in "pie." It's a diphthong of "a" ("ah") and "i" ("ee"). In church Latin, "ae" is pronounced more like the English long-A sound -- "ay" as in "pay" -- which is also really a diphthong of "eh" and "ee."
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Only Cesaer knows for sure....
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LOL. True.
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Originally Posted by AzTheta
How can people say "this is how to pronounce Latin words"? No one has ever heard it spoken that is living today (I'm not attacking you personally, angels&angles! OK?). The written language form is all we have, and we all know that written language is nothing like spoken language.
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The written form is all we have of Classical Latin. Church Latin is still used daily.
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