Most Deranged Sorority Girl

[LaneSig]

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

I agree. This is no different from, like, being at a party with one group of friends and telling them you are leaving to go to a better party.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

First, love the Greek references!

Second, I agree with the thought of encouraging participation and not being rude to the group your group is paired with, regardless of tier. You will never regret using good manners and treating others with kindness. However, being rude in order to encourage said participation and manners, probably not the best way to go.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

However, being rude in order to encourage said participation and manners, probably not the best way to go.

I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.

I thought it was funny when I thought it wasn't real. I posted as much in this thread. Now that I know otherwise, not so much. I also know of one blogger who has given her an opportunity to write for him. (Clay Travis of outkickthecoverage). She'll be fine.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.

Doesn't matter. I've seen shenanigans in my own time as an advisor where someone has tried to be funny in public at a fraternity competition event, and it ended up being a complete PR disaster. And as I stated previously here about my hunch that this individual has probably been a problem before, the same was true in my instance, and unfortunately while intents may be for humor, the consequence can be one's membership. Maybe it is just me, but my gut says this was not written for the purpose of a laugh.

[adpiucf]

Agreed. People that flip out like this in an email are inclined to do it in person. That type of "leadership" doesn't inspire people to follow you; it just makes you look like a hot mess that no one wants to be associated with. It's immature. And yes, it's very funny when you're looking from the outside in. It's uncomfortable and upsetting when you're the one being screamed at.

I think it is unfortunate the student resigned from her sorority. Now we just have a bitter ex member who will probably tell everyone how her sorority screwed her over. I think it would have been good for her to stick it out by stepping down from her position and learning how to work with a group. But this was a lesson for her and hopefully she will think twice about how she communicates in the future. She's gotten her 15 minutes of fame, and I'm sure she will be fine-- maybe even get a blog or book deal going.

She's not saying anything some of us haven't felt in trying to "motivate" others; the difference is that you need to think before you speak/send and put yourself in the listener's shoes to see if what you're trying to convey will be heard and if they will be receptive. I hope that lesson has been learned. I think that this incident will be the topic of conversation for a while and lead chapters to discuss positive PR, proper motivating words, and leadership.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

I love you for the Greek reference. As long as no one mixes with IKI, we're cool.