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04-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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I think there is a lot of confusion between "philanthropy" and "service" I would rather see more of an emphasis on the latter, but hey, why hang out in a nursing home when you could have a really fun softball tournament instead?
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04-23-2013, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
I think there is a lot of confusion between "philanthropy" and "service" I would rather see more of an emphasis on the latter, but hey, why hang out in a nursing home when you could have a really fun softball tournament instead?
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That's part of my point. It would be nice to be able to choose something where college students really could give time instead of just writing checks and having events that have zero to do with the actual goal of the philanthropy.
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04-23-2013, 01:51 PM
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I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up already, but I'd guess that the length of the new member process also has some sort of affect on loyalty/retention. These days the new member program is a standard 6-8 weeks for most national groups. It's very structured (for example, week 2 is history: discuss pages 3-6 in the pledge manual, do XYZ ritual to honor founders, play "history jeopardy") and has the potential to really seem impersonal.
I'm TOTALLY not saying the going back to hazing is the right thing to do...but I think if a new member has a longer new member period and has more time to really learn about the sisterhood (both ideologically and socially) - and if she feels that she earned a place in the sisterhood (by putting time and effort into the pledging process), it would encourage long-term loyalty.
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04-23-2013, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128
I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up already, but I'd guess that the length of the new member process also has some sort of affect on loyalty/retention.
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I have to agree!
It's hard to absorb enough of the history, policies and procedures, in addition to getting used to college, studying etc. in 6 or 8 weeks.
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04-23-2013, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128
I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up already, but I'd guess that the length of the new member process also has some sort of affect on loyalty/retention. These days the new member program is a standard 6-8 weeks for most national groups. It's very structured (for example, week 2 is history: discuss pages 3-6 in the pledge manual, do XYZ ritual to honor founders, play "history jeopardy") and has the potential to really seem impersonal.
I'm TOTALLY not saying the going back to hazing is the right thing to do...but I think if a new member has a longer new member period and has more time to really learn about the sisterhood (both ideologically and socially) - and if she feels that she earned a place in the sisterhood (by putting time and effort into the pledging process), it would encourage long-term loyalty.
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Yes, please.
But to be clear, "going back to hazing" may not be the best description. I wouldn't consider a thing I went through in the 70s to be hazing in any way, shape, or form.
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04-23-2013, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128
I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up already, but I'd guess that the length of the new member process also has some sort of affect on loyalty/retention. These days the new member program is a standard 6-8 weeks for most national groups. It's very structured (for example, week 2 is history: discuss pages 3-6 in the pledge manual, do XYZ ritual to honor founders, play "history jeopardy") and has the potential to really seem impersonal.
I'm TOTALLY not saying the going back to hazing is the right thing to do...but I think if a new member has a longer new member period and has more time to really learn about the sisterhood (both ideologically and socially) - and if she feels that she earned a place in the sisterhood (by putting time and effort into the pledging process), it would encourage long-term loyalty.
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Yes. But I was a spring pledge, so did not have a long pledge period. I still took initiation seriously. I will also say that those hours spent at the dining room table polishing silver made strong bonds.
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