What Not to Say to a Released PNM

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

It kinda seems like a failing of NPC rush that it works for the men but would never work for the women.

Fraternity rush vs. NPC is so incredibly different, that I don't know that it is fair to compare the two. Apples & pineapples...

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Fraternity rush vs. NPC is so incredibly different, that I don't know that it is fair to compare the two. Apples & pineapples...

Right, right, I was just thinking about why it works for some of their groups. ZBT also goes straight to initiation, AFAIK.

I'm not really suggesting the elimination of pledge periods, but I would like to see less of an emphasis on "you're initiated now, the learning is over". Even among NPC orgs, some do a better job of others in making sure there is continuous development throughout your time as a member.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I'm not really suggesting the elimination of pledge periods, but I would like to see less of an emphasis on "you're initiated now, the learning is over". Even among NPC orgs, some do a better job of others in making sure there is continuous development throughout your time as a member.

ABSOLUTELY!

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

It kinda seems like a failing of NPC rush that it works for the men but would never work for the women.

Who says it works for the men? It would be interesting to compare rentention rates for a number of decades. Not saying NPC would beat IFC, just that it might reveal...something.
Plus, most fraternities have some kind of inactive membership status, while many NPC groups don't.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I'm not really suggesting the elimination of pledge periods, but I would like to see less of an emphasis on "you're initiated now, the learning is over". Even among NPC orgs, some do a better job of others in making sure there is continuous development throughout your time as a member.

I absolutely agree with this. You can always learn something new, or be reminded of something you've forgotten.

[HQWest]

[QUOTE=AnchorAlumna;2185970]Who says it works for the men? It would be interesting to compare rentention rates for a number of decades. Not saying NPC would beat IFC, just that it might reveal...something.
Plus, most fraternities have some kind of inactive membership status, while many NPC groups don't.
QUOTE]

Exactly. I think that while NPC chapter numbers may be much higher bid day -many individual IFC chapter groups would beat their comparable campus NPC groups both in graduate rates and long-term retention.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Who says it works for the men? It would be interesting to compare rentention rates for a number of decades. Not saying NPC would beat IFC, just that it might reveal...something.

And I think it's only a relative handful of IFC/NIC (or similar) fraternities that have no pledge period and go straight to full initiation. Most fraternities do have some sort of pledge period, though they may not call it that.