University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) 2012 Recruitment

[KSUViolet06]

^^^^Doubt it. Not saying it's right, but that's how it is. However, I do see the lack of women of color thing changing over the next few years or so as college becomes more accessible to people of color and as people of color begin to make up more of the middle class.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

^^^^Doubt it. Not saying it's right, but that's how it is. However, I do see the lack of women of color thing changing over the next few years or so as college becomes more accessible to people of color and as people of color begin to make up more of the middle class.

I have no intention to try to derail this thread, but I really do think this statement is utterly ridiculous.

1. College has always been accessible to women / people of color.

2. There are a number of people of color who have been, and are already, part of the middle class.

The veiled meaning that I am reading here is that as more Blacks move up the economic scale, then they will want to join historically White organizations.

[KSUViolet06]

I think I worded it wrong, I meant more like, as more people of color earn degrees and have kids, the "first generation college student" gap closes for people of color. As our kids grow up and go to college, there will generally be more people of color on college campuses. That increases the possibility for more of us to go Greek (of any sort, not just NPC.)

There's also the legacy factor with people of color. As NPC members of color have kids, they'll be sending them to college as well.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I think I worded it wrong, I meant more like, as more people of color earn degrees and have kids, the "first generation college student" gap closes for people of color. As our kids grow up and go to college, there will generally be more people of color on college campuses. That increases the possibility for more of us to go Greek (of any sort, not just NPC.)

There's also the legacy factor with people of color. As NPC members of color have kids, they'll be sending them to college as well.

Ummm, no......

Still silly.

Ever heard of HBCUs, that have been in existance for at least 130 years, where the majority of the students attending are people of color / AfAm. So, Blacks have been earning degrees for years. Not "every" Black kid going to college is a first generation attendee.

I think you are trying to make a very broad assumption / generalization based on limited knowledge / awareness.

[AGDee]

College has not always been easily accessible to women or women of color and NPC groups have not always been accessible to women of color. The first woman of color initiated into an NPC at my alma mater in 1992 (very liberal, urban, high African American population campus). The first man of color was initiated into an IFC fraternity on my campus in 1986. It was a BIG deal both times, causing a big uproar. There are more women of color attending college than before and there are more women of color joining NPCs but it is still far from the norm on most campuses. The percentages of women of color in NPCs are not the same as the percentages of women of color on college campuses. When that's true, then I would say it has become the norm.

I think KSUViolet has more awareness into this than most of us, frankly.

The legacy factor has a big influence also.

[fascination]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Congrats to ADPi. How exciting for you!

So, question for those who know Ole Miss:

Is a new colonization a good chance to go after some real diversity in an NPC group, or would that doom the group from the start?

I never saw a post on other sorority colonization threads where someone asked if the new colony would strive to increase sorority diversity on that campus. I'm not convinced that Ole Miss's sororities are significantly less diverse than those on the majority of campuses. Yes, looking at pledge class pictures posted on GC, there are some chapters and campuses where there is a more diversity overall. But, truthfully, it's not like Ole Miss is the exception in terms of low diversity -- at all.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I think you are trying to make a very broad assumption / generalization based on limited knowledge / awareness.

This comment, in the context of being directed at KSUViolet, made me laugh.

[KSUViolet06]

^^^I know, right?

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Congrats to ADPi. How exciting for you!

So, question for those who know Ole Miss:

Is a new colonization a good chance to go after some real diversity in an NPC group, or would that doom the group from the start?

There are already women of color in our NPC community at Ole Miss.

As someone who attended all 4 presentations I am pleased to say I'm very happy to see ADPi and Alpha Phi joining our wonderful Panhellenic Community. I hope to see some AOII loves ADPi and AOII loves Alpha Phi buttons soon!

[sigmadiva]

Whether or not women of color want to join, or actually join NPC is their choice. After all, there are persons of non-color who are members of NPHC orgs.

I just did not understand the implication KSUViolet made in saying that when people of color have access to college and move into the middle class, then they will want to join historically White orgs. That is how I interpreted her statement.

My issue is that people of color have had access to college, and are members of the middle class. Just because those AfAm have reached that level does not mean that all of us have a desire to join historically White orgs, like NPC.

It is not my intent to derail this thread. Its that what she said left me and .

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There are already women of color in our NPC community at Ole Miss.

As someone who attended all 4 presentations I am pleased to say I'm very happy to see ADPi and Alpha Phi joining our wonderful Panhellenic Community. I hope to see some AOII loves ADPi and AOII loves Alpha Phi buttons soon!

How lovely! OleMissGlitter, you are the perfect example of panhellenic class and hospitality!

[fascination]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

As someone who attended all 4 presentations I am pleased to say I'm very happy to see ADPi and Alpha Phi joining our wonderful Panhellenic Community. I hope to see some AOII loves ADPi and AOII loves Alpha Phi buttons soon!

Has Alpha Phi been selected to colonize, too?

[AZTheta]

^^ Fall 2015 is the word from Jill1228 and other elated Alpha Phis.

sorry Jill, must have extrapolated that from our FB convo!!!!

[Jill1228]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

^^ Fall 2015 is the word from Jill 1228 and other elated Alpha Phis.

Actually, it wasn't from me. Someone else mentioned it, but yeah I am elated---I am not even gonna front!

Stoked for us and ADPi

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There are already women of color in our NPC community at Ole Miss.

As someone who attended all 4 presentations I am pleased to say I'm very happy to see ADPi and Alpha Phi joining our wonderful Panhellenic Community. I hope to see some AOII loves ADPi and AOII loves Alpha Phi buttons soon!

Are there black women in NPC groups at Ole Miss? Or other women of color? I honestly thought I remembered a thread as recently as last year saying that there were still no black women in the NPC groups.

Obviously, the way I posed the question, women of color could be Asian, Latina, etc., too, and I have no idea how those groups are represented. I also recall, though, that Ole Miss is the only school I know of that doesn't arrange its recruitment to accomodate the Jewish High Holidays.