Alabama Sorority Costs...Can anyone help?

[justgo_withit]

I believe socalgirl wasn't correcting your grammar, just pointing out that there's no guarantee the OP's daughter pledged a sorority. She changed what to if, that's not a grammar thing.

[AUmom2012]

I was being optimistic hoping she had pledged, and would be a happy new member somewhere, despite all the difficulties she's had getting there. I guess we'll see.

[AZTheta]

Did the OP's daughter receive and accept a bid? Magic 8 ball says: Better not tell you now.

I also asked Magic 8 ball if the OP would come back to GC and got this: Don't count on it.

Two of those types of answers = it's time to move on!

P.S. We actually have very little information about the OP's daughter's recruitment. The OP never posted anything about how her daughter fared throughout the week, other than that she had a full schedule for skit day. This suggests that the daughter was at that point having a successful recruitment (especially considering the competitiveness of Alabama).

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Did the OP's daughter receive and accept a bid? Magic 8 ball says: Better not tell you now.

I also asked Magic 8 ball if the OP would come back to GC and got this: Don't count on it.

Two of those types of answers = it's time to move on!

P.S. We actually have very little information about the OP's daughter's recruitment. The OP never posted anything about how her daughter fared throughout the week, other than that she had a full schedule for skit day. This suggests that the daughter was at that point having a successful recruitment (especially considering the competitiveness of Alabama).

I suspect someone like this would be rather tempted to come back to Greekchat to gloat about how her plan to have the daughter list only the budget chapters worked if she did indeed get a bid to one.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

I suspect someone like this would be rather tempted to come back to Greekchat to gloat about how her plan to have the daughter list only the budget chapters work if she did indeed get a bid to one.

First I was all face because my attempt at "light banter and fun exchanges" was a FAIL, apparently.

Now I'm all face.

/flounce

[AUmom2012]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Did the OP's daughter receive and accept a bid? Magic 8 ball says: Better not tell you now.

I also asked Magic 8 ball if the OP would come back to GC and got this: Don't count on it.

Two of those types of answers = it's time to move on!

P.S. We actually have very little information about the OP's daughter's recruitment. The OP never posted anything about how her daughter fared throughout the week, other than that she had a full schedule for skit day. This suggests that the daughter was at that point having a successful recruitment (especially considering the competitiveness of Alabama).

Don't be !! I liked your effort !

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

First I was all face because my attempt at "light banter and fun exchanges" was a FAIL, apparently.

Now I'm all face.

/flounce

Good use of smilies. You have met your quota for the day!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by apmgm

As a long-time lurker, I'm somewhat confused by the culture of this site and the prevalence of snarky responses posted by some of "the regulars."

I wonder if those same people are so frank when dealing face-to-face with friends/family members/co-workers/members of their own or other GLOs/etc?

Perhaps it's harder to bite one's tongue on greekchat's message boards than in real life?

I have to warn my dear sister AlphaFrog about this post so she doesn't read it on her smartphone in the middle of the mall and embarrass herself by peeing her pants laughing.

And if you think frankness = rudeness, you'd better get one of these:

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by AUmom2012

Oh dang....I forgot I was on the English Teacher's forum. First, I get corrected for using 'dau' and now fixing my previous post.

What I meant to say was.....
After this discussion, does anyone know what (sorority) the OP's daughter pledged?

Most forums I frequent enjoy light banter and fun exchanges...well except for this one.

Wait . . . there's an English teachers' forum and I wasn't informed?

A pox on all your houses! (Light banter - cue fun exchange)

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

And to the poster who brought up 35 year old GOSSIP about my chapter, that's stooping pretty low to just say you didn't like what I said to the OP about doing whatever she had to do to pay the freight. It's people like you who contribute to a bad atmosphere for any challenged chapter. How you can think that gossip form that long ago is relevant to anything today is beyond me.

I responded to comments floated by others regarding my ignorance of your identity, as if your identity pardoned the comments and ridicule you directed to the OP.

The fact that your own chapter at UofA was challenged, dwindled in membership, and closed is not "gossip" -- it happened, as you already know. My opinion that the girls there would have benefited from the help of committed alums is based on my observation. I (as well as almost every other freshman girl on campus) walked past your chapter house every day during the trek from Tutwiler to class.

Neither my statements of fact nor my observations "stoop" to suggest that anyone should have just skipped lattes to fund improvements to the house, for instance, or anything else. I did not pass judgment on their sorority experience based on some arbitrary measure (as with amount of house bill in this thread), or (retrospectively) waggle a judgmental finger in the faces of their parents.

Originally Posted by Titchou

It's people like you who contribute to a bad atmosphere for any challenged chapter.

Blaming other people for your own chapter's challenges and subsequent closing is inconsistent with your sweeping statements regarding personal responsibility and what parents of my generation are teaching their daughters.

I don't have any idea why your chapter struggled with membership -- this was during a time when girls could indeed "drop" a chapter early in the week and never return. Perhaps the system in place today is more advantageous for chapters that struggle with numbers.

Recruitment is a competitive process for the chapters as well as for the PNMs. I guess you could include this on your list of "harsh realities." Blaming other people for your chapter's challenges makes no more sense than a PNM blaming other PNMs for her own recruitment problems.

Originally Posted by Titchou

How you can think that gossip form that long ago is relevant to anything today is beyond me.

Frame of reference. When someone snatches opportunities to ridicule and judge other people who are in vulnerable situations, there is almost always more to the story.

I'm just being frank, of course.

Nonetheless, best wishes toward continued success in the re-colonization of your chapter at Bama. The new house is just fabulous, and I'm sure plenty of outstanding young women will be proud to call it home.

Originally Posted by Titchou

I do not advise at FSU but see an error in my group's listing of what's included. So I wouldn't place absolute faith in this printed information either.

And to the poster who brought up 35 year old GOSSIP about my chapter, that's stooping pretty low to just say you didn't like what I said to the OP about doing whatever she had to do to pay the freight. It's people like you who contribute to a bad atmosphere for any challenged chapter. How you can think that gossip form that long ago is relevant to anything today is beyond me.

And to those of you who think I was harsh, harsh doesn't mean wrong. Harsh is a dose of reality to a parent to came here expecting us to do be able to correct something over which we have no control. No, I don't know her personal situation. But I know she has 4 children which she intends to put thru college - by her admission. So, she's not exactly on poverty row. Will it be hard, probably. But she has stated that as what she plans to do. Other people tell their children they will not pay for any college and the child has to do it themselves. Some will only pay tuition, room and board. That's a personal decision. Some people say "here's $xxxxx" spend it however you want on college." You do what you can do. And if a suggestion to find a way to pay for it (which is all the "give up your lattes" remark was) is off base then I wonder where my baby boomer generation went astray with their children.

[Titchou]

You have no idea what all I - and my sisters - did to try and save the chapter. When you talk about someone's chapter of initiation, you are getting VERY personal. What did YOU do to help? The hippie/anti Viet Nam movements of the 60's and 70's did Greeks in general no favors.

Sorry if I am a pragmatist. I went to Catholic schools thru high school and was mostly raised by my father so I look at things from a very practical point of view. My first car was my grandmother's 7 year old Chevy when she finally got a new car. A year later, I wanted a 65 GTO and had to have my father co-sign for me as I was 20 a couldn't legally sign a loan on my own. He told me he would have the bank write a new one when I turned 21. I agreed to those terms. He took me to lunch on my 21st birthday and we went by the bank for me to sign a loan on my own. Though my parents always paid for my schooling- private school, college, sorority - I worked summers during high school and got a part time job in college when I realized my allowance would not go as far as I wanted. I knew - without even asking- that my father wouldn't increase my allowance - even though he could afford to. That's how I was raised. With all I ever needed but knowing that it was up to me to find a way to get the extras. Just because my parents could afford something was not reason enough for me to have it. All I was suggesting was that the mother find a way...not a cut of an arm. For crying out loud. Get a grip, folks.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

You have no idea what all I - and my sisters - did to try and save the chapter. When you talk about someone's chapter of initiation, you are getting VERY personal. What did YOU do to help? The hippie/anti Viet Nam movements of the 60's and 70's did Greeks in general no favors.

No, I don't know what all you did to try to save your chapter.

Which is why I didn't waggle a judgmental finger. I'm sure this was heartbreaking for the actives and the alums.

But whatever those hippies did to damage the greek system, it didn't have much of an effect at the UofA. Greek life was flourishing during the 70's (I can certainly speak for the late 70's anyway), with nearly as many sororities as there are today.

[Titchou]

Your memory is suspect. Alpha Phi, Sigma Kappa, DG, DPhiE, AZD and A E Phi all left! Theta and AOPi came but that's it's. Gamma Phi didn't come back till the 80's. We have more chapters now than ever before.

And it was heartbreaking. You have NO idea how it felt to stand in that new house these past two weeks. And you need to quit talking about MY chapter. I sure as heck wouldn't talk about yours - at least not here on GC.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

I suspect someone like this would be rather tempted to come back to Greekchat to gloat about how her plan to have the daughter list only the budget chapters worked if she did indeed get a bid to one.

How did Greek or Geek get banned? What happened today?

[DrPhil]

Nothing happened on the main board. Does anyone know what happened in the Secret GC Vault?