12-year-old tased by police officer

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You are all over the place but here goes....

Maybe, but the way I see it, you are trying to force extreme absolutes on situations that can vary greatly.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

In other words, it can be "infinite".

No, it cannot be "infinite".

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

(Of course, the actual sub-text is that we are to simply agree and support whatever assessment DrPhil has made of this situation, but not everyone will see it her way. )

What are you ranting about now?

You either have not read this thread or do not understand what you read.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Maybe, but the way I see it, you are trying to force extreme absolutes on situations that can vary greatly.

No, law enforcement cannot act solely based on variation and what may work in any given moment.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What are you ranting about now?

You know me, just bitchmoaningandgroanin'.

No, law enforcement cannot act solely based on what may work in any given moment.

Like I said, they also have the ability to use their judgment.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Like I said, they also have the ability to use their judgment.

Their judgment and discretion are not "infinite". If you acknowlege that then we can stop going around in circles.

Now, I'm still perplexed by:

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Should a 12 year old child get tased? No

Should a 12 year old child get tased by the police? Depends.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Their judgment is not "infinite".

No, I was not saying that their judgment is "infinite".

I was responding to MC when he said that the point of this thread is to examine the parameters of when I cop should tase a 12 yr old. At least that is what I understood.

My response to that was, for as many people as you can ask, you can get that many parameters. After all, that is what we are discussing, right?

And, to think about it, it would not be infinite either. It is limited to the number of people on earth.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

No, I was not saying that their judgment is "infinite".

I was responding to MC when he said that the point of this thread is to examine the parameters of when I cop should tase a 12 yr old. At least that is what I understood.

My response to that was, for as many people as you can ask, you can get that many parameters. After all, that is what we are discussing, right?

Controlling for policies, procedures, training, legal code, and intelligence:


The answers are not "infinite."

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

And, to think about it, it would not be infinite either. It is limited to the number of people on earth.

Forreal, sigmadiva? Wow.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I explained that in my response to MC on the previous page.

I already read that. If unarmed children shoving on a playground versus children who bring a gun to the playground is your only model for police procedures on children then you clearly can only operate based on extremes.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Their judgment and discretion are not "infinite". If you acknowlege that then we can stop going around in circles.

Now, I'm still perplexed by:

I explained that in my response to MC on the previous page.