12-year-old tased by police officer

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You should have stuck with "no" and left out the "classless" edit. You would not be the first person whose opinions are shaped by appearance.

My first edit was a lot more crass. What you implied there was a jackass thing to imply.

If I did not think the words "class," "classy," and "classless," were really stupid when not dealing with social class and socioeconomic status, I would say that it is "classless" for you to believe that a child of any age should be tased.

I'm sure the officer would have loved to hear you lecture him about class and white privilege and such while he was effecting an arrest on a felon with her 12-year old and other adults interfering in the arrest.

If you don't pay your tickets, you go to the pokey. You resist a police officer, you get hurt. Actions have consequences and stupidity knows no race or class.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

My first edit was a lot more crass. What you implied there was a jackass thing to imply.

And I stand behind that post 100%.

As evidenced by....

Originally Posted by Kevin

I'm sure the officer would have loved to hear you lecture him about class and white privilege and such while he was effecting an arrest on a felon with her 12-year old and other adults interfering in the arrest.

You completely missed what I was saying in that post. Completely. That is okay because you have confirmed why I stand behind my other post 100%.

Originally Posted by thetalady

Very poor job of reporting by Huff Post, not by you, Dr. Phil. The warrants were for drug TRAFFICKING, not traffic tickets.

Looks to me like this child might have seen her mother arrested on a couple of other occasions...

Every reputable news source that I found states "traffic tickets." There are some ignorant forums that state "drug trafficking." If you can find news sources that confirm that it is drug trafficking, please post the links.

That does not mean that a 12 year old child should be tasered but I do like to have the correct facts.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Every reputable news source that I found states "traffic tickets." There are some ignorant forums that state "drug trafficking." If you can find news sources that confirm that it is drug trafficking, please post the links.

Try this: https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/ca...earchType=name

and enter her name Charlene E Bratton and note the criminal drug cases for several years.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Try this: https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/ca...earchType=name

and enter her name Charlene E Bratton and note the criminal drug cases for several years.

Does that mean that she was being arrested for a drug trafficking warrant last week?

I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil;

I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.

No, it's about taking Charlene E Bratton, convicted felon at her word when she tells us her tale of woe about an arrest. It's much more likely that the 12-year old and the accompanying adults were refusing to obey lawful orders and acting in a threatening manner than the officer tazing a little girl for "just standing there." You've picked the wrong side of this fight and probably because of the skin color of the alleged victim.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

No, it's about taking Charlene E Bratton, convicted felon at her word when she tells us her tale of woe about an arrest.

No, this thread is about a 12 year old being tasered. That is why it is titled "12 year old tase(re)d by police officer."

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, this thread is about a 12 year old being tasered. That is why it is titled "12 year old tase(re)d by police officer."

But let's not pretend that no thread ever gets derailed. Although, I'm not really sure I'd consider this a derailment. I think the train is just headed in a different direction.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, this thread is about a 12 year old being tasered. That is why it is titled "12 year old tase(re)d by police officer."

Read the information in the article from the officer's report. That's probably what happened. A 12-year old girl can be as much of a danger to an officer as anyone else. Especially when other adults are involved.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.

Whatever... I was just trying to answer the question that you asked about the mother.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Whatever... I was just trying to answer the question that you asked about the mother.

Actually, no, you stated that the article(s) was inaccurate. I appreciate your attempt to clarify however (1) the article(s) may very well be accurate; and (2) it only highlighted the mother's history with the criminal justice system as Kevin was doing.

Are there instances where GCers besides Kevin believe children should be tasered?

[tcsparky]

I work with 11-15 year old "children" every day. They can be extremely violent, think that they are grown, do not listen to instructions in the heat of the moment and are full sized humans. I can completely see an officer using a taser to subdue an unruly 12 year old. Based on my experiences in physically subduing persons this age, the taser will likely result in less physical damage to both participants.

To give one example: I am still dealing with a back injury that happened in November resulting from a 12 year old who was determined to get through me to finish bloodying another one who gave back her sweater smelling "musty." I can imagine that the rage of the 12 year who feels she is protecting her mother is far greater than one who is unhappy about her sweater.