Chick-fil-a Support Day and Free Speech

[agzg]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Kinda, sorta no.

So, yes you do.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

What people do in their lives is their business. But, since homosexuality has been turned into a 'hot button' political issue, it is not unreasonable for people to take sides.

Christianity is very deeply rooted in this country. And, in Christianity homosexuality is seen as sinful, along with other acts. So, if you ask me as a Christian, do I have a problem with gays, then yes I do because it does go against the Bible. I strive to live as close to God's word as possible.

Yes you do then.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

But, I'm also wise enough to recognize that not everyone is a Christian. I'm also wise enough to know that people have the right to their own beliefs even though they differ from mine. So, in that respect, then I say live and let live.

Did you know that a lot of gay people are also Christian? Also that the Bible has a lot of definitions of marriage?

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Personally, I'm heterosexual. So for me it is hard to comprehend being attracted to someone of the same sex.

You've made that quite clear.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

If someone says they are not in support of gay marriage, as marriage defined by the Bible, then they have every right to express that openly in the same way that someone would express the opposite view.

First, which biblical definition of marriage do you mean, here? I'm quite fond of the Man+Wife+Wife+Wife one. Because Lord knows, taking care of a man (clearly my job as a woman, as is spelled out by the Bible) gets tiring sometimes.

OH WAIT THAT'S NOT LEGAL.

It's interesting, though, right? I mean... the status quo right now is that no gay marriage is federally recognized, and only recognized in some states. Super interesting that someone else's "free speech" won out there. At what point does it leave "free speech" and enter "actively working to keep inequality?" Which donation to anti-LGBT groups would that have been?

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Going back to the original point of this thread - I think if the CEO of CFA was not the CEO, but some random guy, then this would not make news. The reason this made news, IMO, is because this was said by someone who runs a multi-billion dollar company. Gays are seen as a political group that exercises its power and influence (read money). So, the idea of someone offending a political group like that ruffled feathers. Bottom line - money is involved. If money was not involved then I don't think anyone would care. Gay, or not.

Of course he wouldn't. Random guys on the street are statistically unlikely to have the dollars (and be willing to give them) to fund side projects that help other groups lobby against gay marriage. No one gives a shit what the toothless white dude with a NASCAR hat thinks about Chick-fil-A and "the homosexicals that are threatnin' traditional marriage!" and has to squeeze a nickel so tight the buffalo poops to make ends meet. His one vote doesn't effect change or uphold the status quo. Now, funding groups to mobilize 3 million toothless white dudes with NASCAR hats on (PrettyBoy is going to come in this thread and bitchslap me for the NASCAR references) DOES make a difference.

Gays are not the only power minority that has money. They're certainly not a power majority that has money. Because people who run multi-billion dollar companies sometimes start charities that fund anti-LGBT groups. But it's cool though - because they're always more privileged than someone, right?

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by agzg

So, yes you do.



Yes you do then.



Did you know that a lot of gay people are also Christian? Also that the Bible has a lot of definitions of marriage?





You've made that quite clear.



First, which biblical definition of marriage do you mean, here? I'm quite fond of the Man+Wife+Wife+Wife one. Because Lord knows, taking care of a man (clearly my job as a woman, as is spelled out by the Bible) gets tiring sometimes.

OH WAIT THAT'S NOT LEGAL.

It's interesting, though, right? I mean... the status quo right now is that no gay marriage is federally recognized, and only recognized in some states. Super interesting that someone else's "free speech" won out there. At what point does it leave "free speech" and enter "actively working to keep inequality?" Which donation to anti-LGBT groups would that have been?



Of course he wouldn't. Random guys on the street are statistically unlikely to have the dollars (and be willing to give them) to fund side projects that help other groups lobby against gay marriage. No one gives a shit what the toothless white dude with a NASCAR hat thinks about Chick-fil-A and "the homosexicals that are threatnin' traditional marriage!" and has to squeeze a nickel so tight the buffalo poops to make ends meet. His one vote doesn't effect change or uphold the status quo. Now, funding groups to mobilize 3 million toothless white dudes with NASCAR hats on (PrettyBoy is going to come in this thread and bitchslap me for the NASCAR references) DOES make a difference.

Gays are not the only power minority that has money. They're certainly not a power majority that has money. Because people who run multi-billion dollar companies start charities that fund anti-LGBT groups. But it's cool though - because they're always more privileged than someone, right?

You win. It is apparent that we are not going to convince each other, so to you too, I say goodnight.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

You win. It is apparent that we are not going to convince each other, so to you too, I say goodnight.

Oh no, I'd never challenge your gold medal spot on the podium . Have a good night.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by agzg

First, which biblical definition of marriage do you mean, here? I'm quite fond of the Man+Wife+Wife+Wife one. Because Lord knows, taking care of a man (clearly my job as a woman, as is spelled out by the Bible) gets tiring sometimes.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having someone to help with the housework.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having someone to help with the housework.

Don't tell Live-in, I have him convinced that the only way to run our household is 50/50. He's cooking dinner tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday, since I cooked Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. If he finds out the Bible says I need to do all the housework he'll start going back to church. Probably with his dad, which would be fine if the pastor wasn't awful.