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Old 07-15-2012, 04:33 AM
SoccerSweetie22 SoccerSweetie22 is offline
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I have no reason to troll or lie. It honestly just feels like you guys are trying to "catch" me trolling so you can tell me how pathetic and/or stupid I am. I'm not trolling, okay? And I've decided that I won't be going through recruitment again, but I want to clear a few things up because although I have a lot of respect for the Greek System (I really wanted to be a part of it!) this actually happened to me, and in some ways, the system may be flawed. This is what I have went through for two years. It doesn't sound right because it isn't. But that doesn't mean that I came on here to mess with you guys. Check my profile out. I made my profile for this specific question because I wanted an honest answer, and I believe that many of you gave me one. So thank you.

I'm going to stop being so anonymous so that hopefully this makes more sense.

DISCLAIMER: I do not have a problem with any of these sororities. I have the utmost respect for these organizations and in no way am I trying to insult any of them. I'm simply clarifying!


First Year: Lived with a roommate. She is in Delta Zeta. I went through recruitment. On day 2, I was called back to DZ and Sigma Kappa. I did not list my legacy, I did not make it to preference.

Second Year: Day 2 I was called back to Delta Zeta, Zeta Tau Alpha, and Alpha Delta Pi (My legacy) I listed my legacy. Again, did not make it to preference.

Let a year go by. Just a few months ago I became friends with the Panhellenic President at my school. She asked me what I thought about going through recruitment again. She said she heard from a Rho Chi that I was offered a bid from Delta Zeta and turned it down my second year. I was shocked because I was not offered a bid and I would have loved to have been a DZ. This news also shocked her so she did some digging. So did I. I wanted to know what had happened. Did I really get a bid? That is when I found out about the letter that my former roommate wrote to somebody in the Greek System. i do not know to who, i never saw the letter, but it was written and submitted. This was confirmed. This information is technically confidential. I was only able to receive confirmation because I had heard about it from someone else elsewhere.

The PanPres talked to the Pres of DZ. The DZPres talked to my former roommate asking if she felt any differently and if they could extend me a bid (other DZ sisters were also telling the DZPres I should join) My former roommate said no, her feelings about me remained the same. I was told this by a DZ sister and mutual friend of mine who observed the conversation and it was later confirmed by members of the panhellenic council. Both Presidents looked into overriding it, but were apparently told it was "above their heads" and it was just "politics" and they are very very sorry.

I had no knowledge that this letter was written, but it was apparently written before my first recruitment. I had known this woman for less than three months at the time she wrote the letter. I was told (and it was later confirmed) that she believed I did not uphold the values and morals of sisterhood and threatened to drop if I were offered a bid. This is especially painful because we hardly knew each other well enough for her to make those judgements, and she was so nice to me the entire year. Never in a million years did I think she would do that. Especially because she was always telling me and everyone we met how "awesome" I was. I feel very betrayed, but there is nothing I can do except to move on. I did NOT read the letter, I have never seen it. I only know what I have been told by mutual friends and Greek "employees" at my school (not sure what to call it. Council members perhaps) who have CONFIRMED what I'm saying. These are not rumors, they are facts.

I really wanted to pledge Delta Zeta. I loved the other chapters, but I fit in more with Delta Zeta. Please don't think I'm dissing the other chapters or blaming them for not getting a bid. It's true what they say, "you just know." I only really felt that with DZ. They were all great and it was an amazing weekend, but i just felt more connected to that chapter. And it's become clear to me that I will not receive a bid from Delta Zeta, and yes that's disappointing, but I will still remain friends with the members outside of the Greek system. At first I wanted to go through recruitment and I wanted to get in so badly that I was willing to join any one that would take me. But that's not fair to myself, nor the sisters of the sorority.

I appreciate all of the things you guys have told me, so thank you.

This seems crazy because it is. But that doesn't mean that I'm making it up. This is what I have gone through. THESE THINGS HAPPEN! It happened to me. There isn't more to the story. This is it. And it sucks, but that's how it played out. The only thing that I ask is that you stop trying to play detective and find "holes" in my story. If this made sense and if it wasn't confusing, I would not be on a Greek site asking for opinions. I have no reason to lie or hold back information. You can choose to believe what you want.

But I believe that everything happens for a reason. I don't understand right now, but hopefully I will in the future. In the meantime, I'll get involved in other things on campus. Life is full of disappointments and I'm going to move on and handle rejection maturely. It isn't the end of the world.

Again, thank you for your replies! Many of you had very honest and helpful feedback and I appreciate it!
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:51 AM
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I have no reason to troll or lie. It honestly just feels like you guys are trying to "catch" me trolling so you can tell me how pathetic and/or stupid I am. I'm not trolling, okay? And I've decided that I won't be going through recruitment again, but I want to clear a few things up because although I have a lot of respect for the Greek System (I really wanted to be a part of it!) this actually happened to me, and in some ways, the system may be flawed. This is what I have went through for two years. It doesn't sound right because it isn't. But that doesn't mean that I came on here to mess with you guys. Check my profile out. I made my profile for this specific question because I wanted an honest answer, and I believe that many of you gave me one. So thank you.

I'm going to stop being so anonymous so that hopefully this makes more sense.

DISCLAIMER: I do not have a problem with any of these sororities. I have the utmost respect for these organizations and in no way am I trying to insult any of them. I'm simply clarifying!


First Year: Lived with a roommate. She is in Delta Zeta. I went through recruitment. On day 2, I was called back to DZ and Sigma Kappa. I did not list my legacy, I did not make it to preference.

Second Year: Day 2 I was called back to Delta Zeta, Zeta Tau Alpha, and Alpha Delta Pi (My legacy) I listed my legacy. Again, did not make it to preference.

Let a year go by. Just a few months ago I became friends with the Panhellenic President at my school. She asked me what I thought about going through recruitment again. She said she heard from a Rho Chi that I was offered a bid from Delta Zeta and turned it down my second year. I was shocked because I was not offered a bid and I would have loved to have been a DZ. This news also shocked her so she did some digging. So did I. I wanted to know what had happened. Did I really get a bid? That is when I found out about the letter that my former roommate wrote to somebody in the Greek System. i do not know to who, i never saw the letter, but it was written and submitted. This was confirmed. This information is technically confidential. I was only able to receive confirmation because I had heard about it from someone else elsewhere.

The PanPres talked to the Pres of DZ. The DZPres talked to my former roommate asking if she felt any differently and if they could extend me a bid (other DZ sisters were also telling the DZPres I should join) My former roommate said no, her feelings about me remained the same. I was told this by a DZ sister and mutual friend of mine who observed the conversation and it was later confirmed by members of the panhellenic council. Both Presidents looked into overriding it, but were apparently told it was "above their heads" and it was just "politics" and they are very very sorry.

I had no knowledge that this letter was written, but it was apparently written before my first recruitment. I had known this woman for less than three months at the time she wrote the letter. I was told (and it was later confirmed) that she believed I did not uphold the values and morals of sisterhood and threatened to drop if I were offered a bid. This is especially painful because we hardly knew each other well enough for her to make those judgements, and she was so nice to me the entire year. Never in a million years did I think she would do that. Especially because she was always telling me and everyone we met how "awesome" I was. I feel very betrayed, but there is nothing I can do except to move on. I did NOT read the letter, I have never seen it. I only know what I have been told by mutual friends and Greek "employees" at my school (not sure what to call it. Council members perhaps) who have CONFIRMED what I'm saying. These are not rumors, they are facts.

I really wanted to pledge Delta Zeta. I loved the other chapters, but I fit in more with Delta Zeta. Please don't think I'm dissing the other chapters or blaming them for not getting a bid. It's true what they say, "you just know." I only really felt that with DZ. They were all great and it was an amazing weekend, but i just felt more connected to that chapter. And it's become clear to me that I will not receive a bid from Delta Zeta, and yes that's disappointing, but I will still remain friends with the members outside of the Greek system. At first I wanted to go through recruitment and I wanted to get in so badly that I was willing to join any one that would take me. But that's not fair to myself, nor the sisters of the sorority.

I appreciate all of the things you guys have told me, so thank you.

This seems crazy because it is. But that doesn't mean that I'm making it up. This is what I have gone through. THESE THINGS HAPPEN! It happened to me. There isn't more to the story. This is it. And it sucks, but that's how it played out. The only thing that I ask is that you stop trying to play detective and find "holes" in my story. If this made sense and if it wasn't confusing, I would not be on a Greek site asking for opinions. I have no reason to lie or hold back information. You can choose to believe what you want.

But I believe that everything happens for a reason. I don't understand right now, but hopefully I will in the future. In the meantime, I'll get involved in other things on campus. Life is full of disappointments and I'm going to move on and handle rejection maturely. It isn't the end of the world.

Again, thank you for your replies! Many of you had very honest and helpful feedback and I appreciate it!
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:16 AM
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I probably have no right to give you advice as I am in a sorority and don't know the pain of being rejected twice but you have made the right decision not to try again. I really think you should move on and leave sorority life behind, no matter how hard this may be. Make non-greek friends and get involved in non-greek activities and remember that if your college is like most others the majority of students are not greek and have a great college experience. Just put the past behind you and move on with your life.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:41 PM
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This was confirmed.
By whom? Who told you that there was a letter written that went to some unidentified Overlord of all things Greek?

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This information is technically confidential. I was only able to receive confirmation because I had heard about it from someone else elsewhere.
Again, who confirmed what?

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The PanPres talked to the Pres of DZ. The DZPres talked to my former roommate asking if she felt any differently and if they could extend me a bid (other DZ sisters were also telling the DZPres I should join) My former roommate said no, her feelings about me remained the same. I was told this by a DZ sister and mutual friend of mine who observed the conversation and it was later confirmed by members of the panhellenic council. Both Presidents looked into overriding it, but were apparently told it was "above their heads" and it was just "politics" and they are very very sorry.
The Panhellenic President has no say in membership decisions (unless of course, she is also a DZ, which I'm not clear on from your earlier post). It is indeed possible that one person can prevent you from getting a bid to her chapter. What is so confusing to the rest of us is why that would have affected your chances at other chapters.

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I only know what I have been told by mutual friends and Greek "employees" at my school (not sure what to call it. Council members perhaps) who have CONFIRMED what I'm saying. These are not rumors, they are facts.
If you don't know who they are, neither do we. Panhellenic officers? Someone in the Greek Life office?
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:31 PM
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What is so confusing to the rest of us is why that would have affected your chances at other chapters.
My guess is that whatever was in that letter was really bad. OP hasn't said what's in the letter, and I can't help but think she hasn't shared that information because it's true and she's terribly embarrassed by it. Once the contents of the letter were shared between other sororities, they agreed that the OP isn't up to snuff. I agree with whoever here said that the letter was probably accompanied by video, or police record, or something that supports the claims made against the OP.

I'm oblivious to the inner workings of Student Life, so this may be a stupid question. But let's say the person who received the letter was the Dean of Students, and the offense the OP committed was something that violated the school's code of conduct. Could the Dean prohibit her from being eligible to participate in recruitment? (Which doesn't seem to be the case at all, since she did participate in recruitment, but it's one of the only ways I can imagine a "higher up" official having input into membership selection across several chapters.)
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