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Old 06-29-2012, 07:25 PM
LAblondeGPhi LAblondeGPhi is offline
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Pay the doctor/hospitals directly. Self insure. Fee for service.

This new entitlement is a big black hole for us to throw our collective money into. Watch for all the new taxes we will all pay to support this.

Why does a person have to buy insurance if he/she doesn't need it or want it? Why must I be coerced into buying a product I may not want and if I don't buy it I will be taxed for not buying it?

The reason for the above is that the Federal Government tells me I have to or else. I see this as overreaching and as a loss of freedom.
Technically, you're not being forced to buy health insurance; you have the option of paying a tax instead.

YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund the military
YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund corn-growing subsidies.
YOU are forced to pay taxes that fund the construction and maintenance of transit projects you will never use or be near.
YOU are forced to pay taxes for a lot of projects that are much less important to you and to this nation than health coverage is.

Basically, we (the public, the legislature, and SCOTUS) have decided that having everyone pay for some kind of basic healthcare is a benefit to the whole nation. Having everyone pay into the system means that the average premium costs will be lower, thus making healthcare more affordable and attainable for more people.

This decision is not really any kind of federal government overreach. It's pretty much right in line with what the Fed does every day.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:54 PM
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Technically, you're not being forced to buy health insurance; you have the option of paying a tax instead.

YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund the military
YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund corn-growing subsidies.
YOU are forced to pay taxes that fund the construction and maintenance of transit projects you will never use or be near.
YOU are forced to pay taxes for a lot of projects that are much less important to you and to this nation than health coverage is.

Basically, we (the public, the legislature, and SCOTUS) have decided that having everyone pay for some kind of basic healthcare is a benefit to the whole nation. Having everyone pay into the system means that the average premium costs will be lower, thus making healthcare more affordable and attainable for more people.

This decision is not really any kind of federal government overreach. It's pretty much right in line with what the Fed does every day.
Very well said.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:55 AM
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Technically, you're not being forced to buy health insurance; you have the option of paying a tax instead.

YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund the military
YOU are forced to pay taxes to fund corn-growing subsidies.
YOU are forced to pay taxes that fund the construction and maintenance of transit projects you will never use or be near.
YOU are forced to pay taxes for a lot of projects that are much less important to you and to this nation than health coverage is.

Basically, we (the public, the legislature, and SCOTUS) have decided that having everyone pay for some kind of basic healthcare is a benefit to the whole nation. Having everyone pay into the system means that the average premium costs will be lower, thus making healthcare more affordable and attainable for more people.

This decision is not really any kind of federal government overreach. It's pretty much right in line with what the Fed does every day.
Can you send this e-mail to the Obama administration? As professional political strategists they have done a monumentally poor job of framing (and thus successfully advancing) this issue since they took it up -- 2009.

Even now, the Supreme Court hadn't even left town and Repbulicans are framing it as "a tax, a tax, a tax." As political strategy, you could say they're winning, but then you realize that most people have health insurance and aren't subject to this, and it's really only firing up the Rep base to raise money.
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