Time Cover

[DrPhil]

Tonight's Dr. Drew on HLN made me think of the Time Cover and this thread.

A woman was arrested for breast feeding her son when she was on (medical) marijuana. Women are calling and talking about how they use drugs and how it affected their children. One woman had the nerve to say "I have used drugs for years and it never impacted my kids...this woman made the mistake of breastfeeding while on marijuana."

The woman who was arrested is on Dr. Drew now. She is breastfeeding while on the show. Dr. Drew said "you're breastfeeding now...I need to make sure you are not also using marijuana." She said something to the effect of "yeah I am breastfeeding" and Dr. Drew responded with "yeah...but are you using marijuana? I need to know...."

Breastfeeding is what it is but I really do not want to see it when I am not expecting to see it. It's just like many body parts and actions that are NOT inherently BAD but they also don't need to be "forced" upon us.

[christiangirl]

Wait a minute. When you said she was breastfeeding on the show, you mean LITERALLY while the camera was on her?

[PiKA2001]

What's up with the breastfeeding frenzy going on lately? I've noticed commercials, magazine covers, and print ads everywhere promoting breastfeeding the last couple of months or so.

[pbear19]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's up with the breastfeeding frenzy going on lately? I've noticed commercials, magazine covers, and print ads everywhere promoting breastfeeding the last couple of months or so.

I believe it is a bit of backlash, although the backlash is getting way more press than the original issues did. Over the past year or so there have been a large number of incidents of women who were discreetly breastfeeding in public and were kicked out of the store/restaurant/whatever that they were in, with virtually no apologies from the associated corporate offices. Those incidents got a lot of press in the "breastfeeding community," if you will, but not much elsewhere.

And when I say discreetly breastfeeding, I mean that they were completely covered up and nothing at all could be seen, yet the women were kicked out. In at least two of the incidents I can recall off the top of my head, an employee at the respective store/restaurant threatened to call the police. In one incident, the police said they would have arrested the woman, in spite of the law in that state that allows public breastfeeding.

So, if you ask me, a few too many moms got mad about being treated like criminals for feeding their kids, and a "breastfeeding is beautiful" type movement has been the response.

[IrishLake]

I thought of this thread when this story hit a few days ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/31...astfeeding-in/
In regards to the above.... and of course I'm biased, I see no problems with two mothers in uniform breastfeeding. (BTW, I think the BFing pictures by this photog are beautiful! I do not look nearly so good when I'm feeding).

Who has two thumbs and breastfed her baby in two public places on Friday night? THIS GIRL! On "The Green" at OU, and at a pub where we were eating dinner. Of course all under a blanket, but still. I was happy we were able to do it, discretely of course, because she usually balks at having a blanket over her face when eating. So much better than having to hike back to the car or the DG house to feed her.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by pbear19

I believe it is a bit of backlash, although the backlash is getting way more press than the original issues did. Over the past year or so there have been a large number of incidents of women who were discreetly breastfeeding in public and were kicked out of the store/restaurant/whatever that they were in, with virtually no apologies from the associated corporate offices. Those incidents got a lot of press in the "breastfeeding community," if you will, but not much elsewhere.

And when I say discreetly breastfeeding, I mean that they were completely covered up and nothing at all could be seen, yet the women were kicked out. In at least two of the incidents I can recall off the top of my head, an employee at the respective store/restaurant threatened to call the police. In one incident, the police said they would have arrested the woman, in spite of the law in that state that allows public breastfeeding.

So, if you ask me, a few too many moms got mad about being treated like criminals for feeding their kids, and a "breastfeeding is beautiful" type movement has been the response.

I see. I hadn't heard about those women getting kicked out of establishments for breastfeeding. Thanks for the schooling.

[Munchkin03]

Also, it's the 20th anniversary of the publication of this book about Attachment Parenting--it's the first instance in which that term was used. AP is about way more than breastfeeding--babywearing, bedsharing, and natural unmedicated childbirth are just part of it. It's all about increasing the attachment between parent (usually mother) and child.

AP obviously has its critics. One of the primary supporters of AP--she helped write several books about it and has been known as an AP expert recently "came out" about her son's drug addiction (from which he eventually died), and that kind of opened the floodgates about whether or not AP is such a good idea--regardless of the fact that teen drug use can happen to anyone.

Elizabeth Badinter just wrote a book about how that kind of attachment isn't good for the kids, it's not good for the marriage, and it's not good for the mother's well-being, especially if she's trying to develop some sort of a career.

I think a lot of it's that the kids who were first parented like this are coming of age and the question is about whether or not it works.

[RaggedyAnn]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

I thought of this thread when this story hit a few days ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/31...astfeeding-in/
In regards to the above.... and of course I'm biased, I see no problems with two mothers in uniform breastfeeding. (BTW, I think the BFing pictures by this photog are beautiful! I do not look nearly so good when I'm feeding).

Who has two thumbs and breastfed her baby in two public places on Friday night? THIS GIRL! On "The Green" at OU, and at a pub where we were eating dinner. Of course all under a blanket, but still. I was happy we were able to do it, discretely of course, because she usually balks at having a blanket over her face when eating. So much better than having to hike back to the car or the DG house to feed her.

I see no problem with it either, but I've bf while in an art museum, shopping and even judging a pumpkin festival! (love my Ergo) People assume LO was sleeping most of the time..though, now that LO is 16 months, we don't bf in public as much anymore, but that's because he is weaning. When he asks for it, with non-verbal cues, I let him.

I don't understand why people care if you are bf or not. The biggest backlash I have felt is from people who feel guilty they are still not or never did, but I just let it roll off me. I'm doing what's best for my son. People have to do what's best for their children.

We weren't big into co-sleeping, but he did use a bassinet by the side of my bed for 3 months and when he had nightmares after his frenulum was cut because of severely being tongue tied, I did let him sleep on my chest for a couple of nights. I have friends that co-sleep though and it works for them. Some breast fed and others formula fed.

[DrPhil]

River of redundancy/

Why do people care whether or not we do most things? There are plenty of things that are considered "natural" that people do not want or do not expect to see with their naked (pun intended) eye.

As I tell people, once you do things in the public sphere or include someone other than yourself, you are opening whatever it is up to a stare or verbal response from other people (unless the law prohibits the response). Freedom to do (insert the freedom) arguably goes both ways.

/River of redundancy

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

River of redundancy/

Why do people care whether or not we do most things? There are plenty of things that are considered "natural" that people do not want or do not expect to see with their naked (pun intended) eye.

As I tell people, once you do things in the public sphere or include someone other than yourself, you are opening whatever it is up to a stare or verbal response from other people (unless the law prohibits the response). Freedom to do (insert the freedom) arguably goes both ways.

/River of redundancy

Good point! I can think of a perfect example, say 2 people making out. They have the freedom to do that but I also have the freedom to tell them to "go get a room".