Help identify this pin, please

[SWTXBelle]

They would be lovely - and better protected -in a shadow box with a tarnish resistant cloth as background. Grandmother's crest pin could be there with the rest of the family to be remembered by one and all. JMHO.

eta - Ye gods, what in the world does multiple sclerosis have to do with it?

[swarmina]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

They would be lovely - and better protected -in a shadow box with a tarnish resistant cloth as background. Grandmother's crest pin could be there with the rest of the family to be remembered by one and all. JMHO.

eta - Ye gods, what in the world does multiple sclerosis have to do with it?

SWTX Belle, I am not going to bust my brother's chops over his wearing this pin, not the regular DG initiation pin, but the crest on black onyx rectangle, as a tie tac. He has MS and his life is hard. If this makes him happy, fine. I am sure there are many dissenting opinions about the correctness of this, including my own, but sometimes I believe the concept is larger than the rule. I am glad he is happy in the memory of my GM's college/sorority life, as am I.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by swarmina

SWTX Belle, I am not going to bust my brother's chops over his wearing this pin, not the regular DG initiation pin, but the crest on black onyx rectangle, as a tie tac. He has MS and his life is hard. If this makes him happy, fine. I am sure there are many dissenting opinions about the correctness of this, including my own, but sometimes I believe the concept is larger than the rule. I am glad he is happy in the memory of my GM's college/sorority life, as am I.

I have searched in vain for a post requesting that you "bust his chops". I am sorry for his medical condition. Whether or not it him wearing it is correct is not a subjective question - it is determined by the organization that owns the crest. I knew what you were inferring - my point is that there is no logic in throwing his medical condition into the discussion. It is not relevant. There is, to the best of my knowledge, no medical exemption to copyright or other laws.

Officer - I have pulled you over because you are speeding.
Speeder - But officer! I have multiple sclerosis and my life is hard!
Officer - Oh, well in that case, never mind.

I would hope that his memories of his grandmother are not dependent on one piece of jewelery, or that if he chose not to wear it he would somehow be dishonoring her. There are no crest police who are going to break in and arrest him, even though the design is copyrighted. It is still an objective fact that by wearing it he is flouting the very organization that apparently meant so much to his grandmother.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by swarmina

SWTX Belle, I am not going to bust my brother's chops over his wearing this pin, not the regular DG initiation pin, but the crest on black onyx rectangle, as a tie tac. He has MS and his life is hard. If this makes him happy, fine. I am sure there are many dissenting opinions about the correctness of this, including my own, but sometimes I believe the concept is larger than the rule. I am glad he is happy in the memory of my GM's college/sorority life, as am I.

MS doesn't affect your brain and the part of you that can distinguish which is right or wrong, except in the very late stages, which if your brother was to that point I doubt he would be wearing a tie let alone a tie tack.

You do people with conditions such as MS NO sympathy by excusing behavior from them that would not be acceptable from others. As a matter of fact, it's pretty damned offensive. You're turning him into a condition to be pitied instead of a person.

And yes, I DO know what I'm talking about and I HAVE been through this with a family member.