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Old 03-30-2012, 11:21 AM
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I was quite disappointed in Spike Lee. No amount of apologies, even monetary, can make me respect Spike Lee like I used to.

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Soledad O'Brien hosts a townhall meeting:

Beyond Trayvon: Race & Justice In America on Friday, March 30th at 8p and 10p ET on CNN.

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Old 03-30-2012, 01:34 PM
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You need to educate yourself on what social activists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have been doing. Both Sharpton and Jackson are still quite active. You can disagree with them all you want to but saying that these vocal people are not DOING something is completely false.

Moreover, when it comes to Black people and racial and ethnic minorities in general, the public expects for everything to be an overt, public announcement of activity. "ALERT!! ALERT!! Black people are doing positive things in the community!!! ALERT!!! ALERT!!!!" That is not how it works the majority of the time. There are both overt and more subtle actions and moves toward change being taken by social activists, community leaders, researchers, etc. These positive moves toward social change take decades to come to fruition and they do not require the general public's seal of approval.



Again, you need to educate yourself on what Jesse Jackson does:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...ms-never-came/

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...arlie-langton/

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/in...esse_jack.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1179946.html
I read the CBS local article. For some reason the others won't open at work. He's not a Detroiter. This has nothing to do with him. He has no investment in Detroit so why get involved? Would you hand someone with a lying and spending problem a couple million? The money was promised to Detroit under circumstances that were fulfilled but the city (and council) are complete eff ups and can't control anything. You think that money would actually go to help the fire and police departments or anything else that could HELP the city? Where's all the money that they had? It's like giving a homeless person a $20 to go buy some food and they go buy drugs instead. This is one actual good thing that Rick Snyder is trying to do for the state/Detroit and because people are scared of what would be uncovered, all he gets is friction, residents singing freedom songs, and a Pastor calling white supremacy and telling people to burn the city down before an EFM takes over. No one wants to move to Detroit because it's too dangerous to even DRIVE through there anymore. Perhaps Reverend Jackson should stay the night in one of those neighborhoods and then we'll see what his opinion is.

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I was quite disappointed in Spike Lee. No amount of apologies, even monetary, can make me respect Spike Lee like I used to.

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Soledad O'Brien hosts a townhall meeting:

Beyond Trayvon: Race & Justice In America on Friday, March 30th at 8p and 10p ET on CNN.
This I completely agree with. I don't care if it's Jefferey Dahmer's address, or an Al Qaida terrorist, you just don't DO that because inevitably an innocent person will get hurt.

I never understood parents and family making rounds right after the death. Or even when someone's loved one dies and they're on the news sobbing that their baby's been killed. Lay your loved one to rest and then take on the world in their name. But like I said, people mourn in different ways. I don't have to understand it.

ETA: I got the MLive article to open. Yes, more jobs will reduce crime, but people need to WANT to work. We have so many good people who call our company looking for any kind of work and they do a great job. Then you have the people looking for any kind of work, get it, and then don't show up or call off for whatever reason they can find. I do agree with his idea of reviving hope in Detroit, but the city's BS needs to be cleaned up to get that hope going. There's no reason someone should die because the ambulance is broken down and can't get to the hospital (or to the residence) or a house to burn down because the water pump on the truck isn't working and all the fire department can do is stand there helplessly watching and doing what they can.

Sorry I didn't mean to bring this all off topic.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:20 PM
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He's not a Detroiter. This has nothing to do with him. He has no investment in Detroit so why get involved?
Uh...what?
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In Birmingham there are vigils being held for Trayvon and the city council wore hoodies. I like that the family is getting support. They should be getting it. So much about this case is just downright foul. But I had to wonder at the irony in Birmingham holding a vigil for this kid when we have a high per-capita murder rate, and so far this year almost all of the murders have been of young black men. (14 out of 15) I hope this case can be a jumping off point for cities to look into their own murder cases...I'm sure there are a ton of families around here that wish their children had gotten the same exposure when they were killed.

Aside from that this entire case scares me. How many times have I been with friends that looked/dressed just like him and why would anyone ever just SHOOT them while we were getting snacks or just hanging out outside? WTF?
That was the mindset of a lot of Detroiters during the rally here. Although, now the grandmother of the 9 month old killed by a drive by... the same woman people shielded from the cameras at the rally... is FINALLY getting air time. Good for her for trying to speak out at the rally about our own violence.

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Uh...what?
Why does he need to get involved in local politics? Politics that are SO corrupt that the state NEEDS to step in to save our city. It doesn't make sense to me for outsiders to get involved, I don't care who it is, not just him. If he's going to get involved in Detroit's issues, focus on the gangs and violence and the dozens of black (and white) children that are dying.

I was thinking on the way home, if Zimmerman was correct that his head was being slammed into the ground... I wonder what the outcome would've been if he didn't have a gun on him. Would he have been killed? Would the country still be up in arms about the hood and racial profiling? A lot of different outcomes had the gun not been involved. Just thoughts.
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