Ugliest/Most Horrible Paraphenalia you've ever seen?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Should NPC orgs, and white people in general, therefore avoid these references?

Nope, I just said that it doesn't sit well with me, and I wouldn't wear such a shirt if one were made for my group. Others are free to do whatever they want, and to feel however they want about the issue.

To offer another analogy, it feels to me a little like having a bachelorette party in a gay bar. There are still parts of the country where black women are largely unwelcome in NPC groups.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Nope, I just said that it doesn't sit well with me, and I wouldn't wear such a shirt if one were made for my group. Others are free to do whatever they want, and to feel however they want about the issue.

To offer another analogy, it feels to me a little like having a bachelorette party in a gay bar. There are still parts of the country where black women are largely unwelcome in NPC groups.

Thanks for the explanation. I always understood your point, I am just wondering where the line is drawn.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

*Retiring from hiatus for two seconds*

I didn't see the Sir Fidel shirt as a an adoption of a minority culture by elitist white groups. All of black culture is not ruined by a single hip hop reference on a Phi Mu t-shirt. As a "race" we have far bigger concerns.

I see it as an adoption of popular culture just as they would use "Wizard of Oz" theme or "Sex and the City" or a "How I Met Your Mother" theme. It's just what's hot in the streets right now to say "____ is my home boy" or whatever the kids are liking right now. The so called "hip hop" culture is what many young people are into and PNMs and others see these references and think it's "super cute" as we'd say down here.

It's not like they'd one day print a shirt saying "This N**** right here is my home girl" or something. At least not anyone with common sense.

Would I buy that shirt? No, but that's because it's ugly and we have way cuter things with more pink on it, not because I find it racist.

[PiAlphaGammaFM]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

*Retiring from hiatus for two seconds*

I didn't see the Sir Fidel shirt as a an adoption of a minority culture by elitist white groups. All of black culture is not ruined by a single hip hop reference on a Phi Mu t-shirt. As a "race" we have far bigger concerns.

I see it as an adoption of popular culture just as they would use "Wizard of Oz" theme or "Sex and the City" or a "How I Met Your Mother" theme. It's just what's hot in the streets right now to say "____ is my home boy" or whatever the kids are liking right now. The so called "hip hop" culture is what many young people are into and PNMs and others see these references and think it's "super cute" as we'd say down here.

It's not like they'd one day print a shirt saying "This N**** right here is my home girl" or something. At least not anyone with common sense.

Would I buy that shirt? No, but that's because it's ugly and we have way cuter things with more pink on it, not because I find it racist.

This. All of this. much more eloquent then i was being.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

So, now the issue is gender inequality and sorority life? *brain fart* I thought the issue was supposed to be mimicking and mocking Black folkseseseses. LOL.

The tone of the song seems inappropriate for ANY sorority to use...black, white, brown or fuchsia.

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I see it as an adoption of popular culture just as they would use "Wizard of Oz" theme or "Sex and the City" or a "How I Met Your Mother" theme. It's just what's hot in the streets right now to say "____ is my home boy" or whatever the kids are liking right now. The so called "hip hop" culture is what many young people are into and PNMs and others see these references and think it's "super cute" as we'd say down here.

If that's the case, then let's turn it around. When is the last time you saw a BGLO or MCGLO having a shirt or party or whatever themed around How I Met Your Mother?