Glee insulting a GLO

[Tulip86]

Since Glee's target audience is a lot younger than the audience for L&O or CSI I think people would be more annoyed about this being said on Glee versus a show targeted at adults. The show's target audience is, among others, the same "target audience" most Greek organisations speak to, which are high school kids that are about to graduate and students.

[DrPhil]

Did I miss where DZ NHQ thinks this matters and therefore contacted the producers of Glee?

If DZ did not/will not do that because this doesn't matter to them for a myriad of reasons, I don't see why non-DZs care beyond not finding the "joke" funny. And, no, it does not have larger implications for Greekdom.

If some of you are offended, protest by not watching Glee. I already do not watch it. Woopty woop. There ya go.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Tulip86

Since Glee's target audience is a lot younger than the audience for L&O or CSI I think people would be more annoyed about this being said on Glee versus a show targeted at adults. The show's target audience is, among others, the same "target audience" most Greek organisations speak to, which are high school kids that are about to graduate and students.

So if they said "Easy DZ" on Law & Order, that's ok.. but on Glee, it's not?

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Did I miss where DZ NHQ thinks this matters and therefore contacted the producers of Glee?

If DZ did not/will not do that because this doesn't matter to them for a myriad of reasons, I don't see why non-DZs care beyond not finding the "joke" funny. And, no, it does not have larger implications for Greekdom.

If some of you are offended, protest by not watching Glee. I already do not watch it. Woopty woop. There ya go.

This!

[33girl]

Or what will happen is...14 year olds watching Glee will, in a couple of years, get to college and have no clue about sororities. They'll see "DZ" on their campus and will remember that from somewhere, but they won't remember quite where. They'll think better of DZ because it's familiar, in some peripheral way.

[Tulip86]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

So if they said "Easy DZ" on Law & Order, that's ok.. but on Glee, it's not?

Not what I said. I said I can imagine people getting more worked up about this because of Glee's target audience.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Or what will happen is...14 year olds watching Glee will, in a couple of years, get to college and have no clue about sororities. They'll see "DZ" on their campus and will remember that from somewhere, but they won't remember quite where. They'll think better of DZ because it's familiar, in some peripheral way.

Yep.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Tulip86

Not what I said. I said I can imagine people getting more worked up about this because of Glee's target audience.

I’m sorry, I misunderstood.

*This response is not directed toward you, Tulip, but…

I don’t understand why there would be a difference in which tv show said what.* As was pointed out earlier, yes, there is a difference between a “real” show (which claims to state facts) and a “fake” show (which is made up and purely created for entertainment).. however, there shouldn’t be separate rules for one fake show over another.*

Which brings us right back around to everyone needing to put this in perspective.* Is it really that big of a deal in the scheme of things?* There are negative images, ideas, opinions, statements, and stories about Greek life in magazines, newspapers, and on tv every day.. but everyone gets mad about THIS?

::sigh::

[DrPhil]

And we are members of GLOs typing about this.

Does the average Glee viewer know that there is a DZ sorority?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And we are members of GLOs typing about this.

Does the average Glee viewer know that there is a DZ sorority?

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

^^ But, again, the only people who would've caught that are the people who realize it's BS. I doubt many non-Greeks even picked up on the reference. It only stood out to us because we're Greek.

Maybe somebody will answer if you ask it

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Maybe somebody will answer if you ask it

I'm tardy to the party. This thread is really a nontopic. Don't mind me.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I'm tardy to the party. This thread is really a nontopic. Don't mind me.

Oh, that wasn't a slight on you. I'm really trying to get an answer to that question.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Oh, that wasn't a slight on you. I'm really trying to get an answer to that question.

LOL. I know. I did not want to belabor the point.

This is the most I have paid attention to Glee since they covered Journey.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. I know. I did not want to belabor the point.

This is the most I have paid attention to Glee since they covered Journey.

This is the ONLY time I've paid attention to Glee.

[Splash]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Or what will happen is...14 year olds watching Glee will, in a couple of years, get to college and have no clue about sororities. They'll see "DZ" on their campus and will remember that from somewhere, but they won't remember quite where. They'll think better of DZ because it's familiar, in some peripheral way.

Doubt it, imho. If they remember, I think they would remember it as making fun.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And we are members of GLOs typing about this.

Does the average Glee viewer know that there is a DZ sorority?

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Maybe somebody will answer if you ask it

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

^^ But, again, the only people who would've caught that are the people who realize it's BS. I doubt many non-Greeks even picked up on the reference. It only stood out to us because we're Greek.

I'm not so much concerned about the damage to DZ as an organization in particular, I'm concerned about general references that implant the notion that "Sororities = Sl*ts" in the minds of those not familiar with Greek life. Just like the average person needs to hear the name of a product 5-6 times before they remember it, it might take several independent references to Greek life to fully form someone's opinion of it. But that doesn't mean that each reference is itself so minor as to be worthless. It's a cumulative process. A lot of the stereotypes about drinking and hazing are addressed nicely by the Panhellenic community, but I just don't see much in the way of dispelling the promiscuity labels.

Now, I'm not saying that we should get all up in arms about this particular instance, but I am saying that a general intolerance about accepting these kinds of references might do the Greek system as a whole some good. Maybe that means being more active about actually preventing situations that lead to negative press and stereotypes. Maybe that means that we all make a commitment to gently push back whenever we hear something negative about Greek Life (think about the Frown Power campaign).

I realize that Greek life on a lot of campuses seems to be growing over the last several years with lots of expansion and larger quotas, but that doesn't mean that we can be complacent about negative images out there. Don't underestimate the number of men and women who aren't giving recruitment a chance because of misconceptions they or their parents have made due to media portrayals. Also, we can't be complacent about the fact that the popularity of Greek life seems to have cycles - we should use the momentum of an upswing to our advantage when we can.