I'm gay, looking to join a southern fraternity... Help!

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

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In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

Just because someone isn't walking around with glitter and Lady Gaga on his iPod doesn't mean he isn't a homosexual. If you think they are non-existent, just wait until after graduation.

And really? Monkeys? That's the next logical step after "OMG WE'RE LETTING IN TEH GAYS"?

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Just because someone isn't walking around with glitter and Lady Gaga on his iPod doesn't mean he isn't a homosexual. If you think they are non-existent, just wait until after graduation.

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

BTW - to alphatausc - mine is bigger (southern Fraternity that is). So not really sure the "big 4" is a reality.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

BTW - to alphatausc - mine is bigger (southern Fraternity that is). So not really sure the "big 4" is a reality.

Seems reasonable. Mind if you tell me your fraternity? Not saying you're wrong, I just had always heard that KA, EN, ATO, and SAE were "the" fraternities of the south.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

Seems reasonable. Mind if you tell me your fraternity? Not saying you're wrong, I just had always heard that KA, EN, ATO, and SAE were "the" fraternities of the south.

Kappa Sigma - Founded in the same state as the Lexington Triad (UVA). Not as big as Sigma Phi Epsilon or Sigma Chi but by some accounts/measurements 3rd, 4th or 5th. We are definitely larger than your "Big 4". Incidently, Sigma Phi Epsilon is a "southern Fraternity" too (University of Richmond). Pi Kappa Phi is also "southern" (College of Charleston). Let's not forget about Pi Kappa Alpha either (UVA). Bottom line is there are really very few "southern" Fraternities as we are all fairly national in scope with chapters in most every region.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

She is a guilty pleasure *hangs head in shame* LOL

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

@ the bold - This was my point. But I guess I wasn't clear enough for alphatausc. I probably spent too much time Occupying Pride or whatever.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

@ the bold - This was my point. But I guess I wasn't clear enough for alphatausc. I probably spent too much time Occupying Pride or whatever.

Free Glitter and Gaga for the 99%?

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Free Glitter and Gaga for the 99%?

Yes. The 1% can buy their own.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

So let me get this right, (not doubting your 30+ years of familiarity with UNC greek life), since Texas A & M and Missouri will be entering into the SEC, by your logic, their Greek Life will change. Since it is now, an SEC school.

Your logic does not resemble our earth logic.

Logic would say that SEC Greek life (by which, in a context like this, is meant the kind of Greek life one finds, or rightly or wrongly assumes one will find, at the schools long-associated with the SEC) will now be less susceptible to blanket generalizations.

Originally Posted by alphatausc

I used Texas and SC as examples because they are both states that are predominantly conservative. SC being very conservative. But North Carolina is also a very conservative state, is it not? So, just based on that, I would say the Greek Life at NC overall carries a conservative view, which would mean extending a bid to a homosexual PNM is out of the question.

Ah, we come to the crux of your problem. (Well, one of them anyway.) No, North Carolina is not a "very conservative state." I'm not saying it's the Massachusetts of the South, but compared to other Southern states, North Carolina is not "very" conservative. And it's been a long time since anyone described UNC as conservative. Usually, it's accused of being more liberal than the rest of the state, which on the whole would probably be classified as moderate.

I'm certainly not saying that UNC, like North Carolina in general, doesn't have its conservatives -- of course it does. Nor am I saying that more conservative views can't be found in the Greek System at UNC. Of course they can, which is why I originally said what I said about the OP's question:

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Seriously though, my hunch is that some chapters will be comfortable with it, others maybe not as much.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Free Glitter and Gaga for the 99%?

*fingers crossed*

The 1% doesn't get it because they were not born this way.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

*fingers crossed*

The 1% doesn't get it because they were not born this way.

Not gonna lie - this prospect excites me more than it should anyone over the age of 15, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. *GLITTER*!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

Remember that lake I told you to jump in? Make sure it's deep and you tie an anvil to your leg first.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Remember that lake I told you to jump in? Make sure it's deep and you tie an anvil to your leg first.

Now that's not politically correct. Shame on you.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

Now that's not politically correct. Shame on you.

I wasn't trying to be, and if we're pointing out who deserves shame....

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I wasn't trying to be, and if we're pointing out who deserves shame....

I do sunshine. I am not a politically correct person, and you have my deepest, most sincere apologies.