I'm gay, looking to join a southern fraternity... Help!

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I knew of openly gay men in Beta Theta Pi and Sigma Chi at Illinois. This was a decade ago, too. If you think those groups wouldn't give gay men bids at SEC schools, it is most definitely not the same at all schools, or even at all large Greek schools.

I actually don't think Sigma Chi would give bids to gay men at an SEC school, so I don't know if we agree or disagree. And Illinois has different political views than your SEC states. I used Texas and SC as examples because they are both states that are predominantly conservative. SC being very conservative. But North Carolina is also a very conservative state, is it not? So, just based on that, I would say the Greek Life at NC overall carries a conservative view, which would mean extending a bid to a homosexual PNM is out of the question. I'm not bashing the OP's preferences, I just don't know how a "southern fraternity" at NC would view a homosexual PNM. When I hear someone say "southern fraternity", I think of the Southern Triad (KA, EN, and ATO) and SAE. And based on my experiences, I would say that the Big 4, when it comes to "southern fraternities", would not extend a bid to him.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

I actually don't think Sigma Chi would give bids to gay men at an SEC school, so I don't know if we agree or disagree. And Illinois has different political views than your SEC states. I used Texas and SC as examples because they are both states that are predominantly conservative. SC being very conservative. But North Carolina is also a very conservative state, is it not? So, just based on that, I would say the Greek Life at NC overall carries a conservative view, which would mean extending a bid to a homosexual PNM is out of the question. I'm not bashing the OP's preferences, I just don't know how a "southern fraternity" at NC would view a homosexual PNM. When I hear someone say "southern fraternity", I think of the Southern Triad (KA, EN, and ATO) and SAE. And based on my experiences, I would say that the Big 4, when it comes to "southern fraternities", would not extend a bid to him.

You do not speak for all southerners, nor do you speak for all SEC greeks. You're embarrassing yourself. I also think you might be surprised to find that the "Big 4" have gay brothers. It's happened. It's even happened in the SEC. Grow up.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

You do not speak for all southerners, nor do you speak for all SEC greeks. You're embarrassing yourself. I also think you might be surprised to find that the "Big 4" have gay brothers. It's happened. It's even happened in the SEC. Grow up.

Yeah, ok. You got me.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

Yeah, ok. You got me.

I hope you realize that GLBT individuals exist in all GLOs, "Big 4" or otherwise.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I hope you realize that GLBT individuals exist in all GLOs, "Big 4" or otherwise.

And that I'm not disagreeing with.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

And that I'm not disagreeing with.

Originally Posted by alphatausc

I actually don't think Sigma Chi would give bids to gay men at an SEC school, so I don't know if we agree or disagree. And Illinois has different political views than your SEC states. I used Texas and SC as examples because they are both states that are predominantly conservative. SC being very conservative. But North Carolina is also a very conservative state, is it not? So, just based on that, I would say the Greek Life at NC overall carries a conservative view, which would mean extending a bid to a homosexual PNM is out of the question. I'm not bashing the OP's preferences, I just don't know how a "southern fraternity" at NC would view a homosexual PNM. When I hear someone say "southern fraternity", I think of the Southern Triad (KA, EN, and ATO) and SAE. And based on my experiences, I would say that the Big 4, when it comes to "southern fraternities", would not extend a bid to him.

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[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

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In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

Just because someone isn't walking around with glitter and Lady Gaga on his iPod doesn't mean he isn't a homosexual. If you think they are non-existent, just wait until after graduation.

And really? Monkeys? That's the next logical step after "OMG WE'RE LETTING IN TEH GAYS"?

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Just because someone isn't walking around with glitter and Lady Gaga on his iPod doesn't mean he isn't a homosexual. If you think they are non-existent, just wait until after graduation.

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

BTW - to alphatausc - mine is bigger (southern Fraternity that is). So not really sure the "big 4" is a reality.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

BTW - to alphatausc - mine is bigger (southern Fraternity that is). So not really sure the "big 4" is a reality.

Seems reasonable. Mind if you tell me your fraternity? Not saying you're wrong, I just had always heard that KA, EN, ATO, and SAE were "the" fraternities of the south.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

Seems reasonable. Mind if you tell me your fraternity? Not saying you're wrong, I just had always heard that KA, EN, ATO, and SAE were "the" fraternities of the south.

Kappa Sigma - Founded in the same state as the Lexington Triad (UVA). Not as big as Sigma Phi Epsilon or Sigma Chi but by some accounts/measurements 3rd, 4th or 5th. We are definitely larger than your "Big 4". Incidently, Sigma Phi Epsilon is a "southern Fraternity" too (University of Richmond). Pi Kappa Phi is also "southern" (College of Charleston). Let's not forget about Pi Kappa Alpha either (UVA). Bottom line is there are really very few "southern" Fraternities as we are all fairly national in scope with chapters in most every region.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I'm over 50 and just had to laugh. Also had to check my iPod and make sure Lady GaGa wasn't playing. No glitter though but I do like some of GaGa's stuff. So straight people like GaGa.

She is a guilty pleasure *hangs head in shame* LOL

Alphatausc seems to believe the "big 4" "Southern Fraternities" in the SEC schools would never allow an openly gay person to join. This may or may not be true but I am quite sure there are gay men who have been members of these chapters whether openly or not. Also if another chapter of these Fraternities have accepted an openly gay member he is a brother to all whether the SEC Fraternity chapters/members or alphatausc for that matter like it or not.

@ the bold - This was my point. But I guess I wasn't clear enough for alphatausc. I probably spent too much time Occupying Pride or whatever.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

@ the bold - This was my point. But I guess I wasn't clear enough for alphatausc. I probably spent too much time Occupying Pride or whatever.

Free Glitter and Gaga for the 99%?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by alphatausc

In the SEC. Tell me Alabama has homosexual brothers in the Big 4. Tell me SC has brothers in the Big 4. Tell me Ole Miss has them, or Arky, or UGA, or UF, or Vandy, or Miss. State, or Tenn., or LSU, or...You get the point. I don't believe they do.

But the OP is talking about NC, Duke, and Elon. And its pretty obvious that due to the political correct world we now find ourselves living in, monkeys will be the next ones to be initiated into fraternities. How dare we exclude monkeys. I must go tell my fraternity brothers that we must now initiate monkeys because not doing so would be non-politically correct and thus immature.

Remember that lake I told you to jump in? Make sure it's deep and you tie an anvil to your leg first.

[alphatausc]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Remember that lake I told you to jump in? Make sure it's deep and you tie an anvil to your leg first.

Now that's not politically correct. Shame on you.