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11-15-2011, 06:09 PM
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Um, that makes no sense whatsoever. If there is a small PNM pool, it doesn't matter whether 20 of your members or 30 of your members just graduated.
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Sorry, I am sure I am not explaining it correctly.
Again, for potential ease of discussion, say a chapter has 60 bed spaces which is allocated evenly to 20 bed spaces per academic year. In other words, 20 sophomores (Class of 2014), 20 juniors (Class of 2013) and 20 seniors (Class of 2012) live in.
Now this past rush (fall of 2011), the bed quota would have been 20 based on the number of graduating seniors in spring of 2012. Say with additions, the chapter pledges 30 women (the Class of 2015). And over the next two to three years, all members of the Class of 2015 move into the chapter house thus increasing the number of bed spots for that one class to 30. And decreasing the number of beds for other classes. Meaning not as many sophomores or juniors would be able to live in the house. That can be viewed as a negitive at UNL since most women do want to live in.
Then when Nebraska’s fall 2014 recruitment comes around, the “bed quota” would be 30 based on the senior class membership of 30. While the chapter could still pledge up to 30 as their bed quota, they may not be able to get to that number simply because the overall pool is lower that year. This chapter would then be competing with all the UNL chapters who also need to fill their beds as well. And if a chapter does not fill their beds, they may be perceived as having issues.
Does that make sense? I can “see it” in my head, but I am not sure if I am explaining it well.
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11-15-2011, 07:37 PM
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Sorry, I am sure I am not explaining it correctly.
Again, for potential ease of discussion, say a chapter has 60 bed spaces which is allocated evenly to 20 bed spaces per academic year. In other words, 20 sophomores (Class of 2014), 20 juniors (Class of 2013) and 20 seniors (Class of 2012) live in.
Now this past rush (fall of 2011), the bed quota would have been 20 based on the number of graduating seniors in spring of 2012. Say with additions, the chapter pledges 30 women (the Class of 2015). And over the next two to three years, all members of the Class of 2015 move into the chapter house thus increasing the number of bed spots for that one class to 30. And decreasing the number of beds for other classes. Meaning not as many sophomores or juniors would be able to live in the house. That can be viewed as a negitive at UNL since most women do want to live in.
Then when Nebraska’s fall 2014 recruitment comes around, the “bed quota” would be 30 based on the senior class membership of 30. While the chapter could still pledge up to 30 as their bed quota, they may not be able to get to that number simply because the overall pool is lower that year. This chapter would then be competing with all the UNL chapters who also need to fill their beds as well. And if a chapter does not fill their beds, they may be perceived as having issues.
Does that make sense? I can “see it” in my head, but I am not sure if I am explaining it well.
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Ah, okay, you are saying that taking more this year means you can take fewer next year. That's something different, and yes, it makes sense.
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11-15-2011, 08:11 PM
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Doesn't Nebraska have a lot of townies enrolled and active in the Greek system? (more than the average) Is this why they do things that way?
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11-16-2011, 03:54 PM
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Doesn't Nebraska have a lot of townies enrolled and active in the Greek system? (more than the average) Is this why they do things that way?
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I believe a good number of “townies” do enroll at Nebraska. However, I am not sure what the numbers are for the Greek system. I would guess there may be a larger percentage or number who do pledge. Greek Life is pretty popular at UNL.
As to why the sororities do things the way they do, UNL has an old Greek System. (Lots of single letter chapters) So my guess is that once sorority housing developed at UNL, local (Lincoln) members did not live in from the get go. As such, they did not count toward the bed quota and over the years, this tradition (of not counting toward bed quota) continued.
My guess is that the idea of “additions” (other than Lincoln women not counting toward bed quota) came later on as the number of PNMs grew and a significant number of women did not receive bids. Pure speculation on my part is that most of these women would have come from out of town since Lincoln women did not count toward the bed quotas. I suspect that UNL wanted to be sure that “all Nebraskans” had the same opportunity to join etc. Thus the “additions”.
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11-17-2011, 09:18 PM
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I think it's a fairly common and a long standing tradition for local women in a college town such as Lincoln and Stillwater, not to count toward quota. Stillwater girls were always "free" as a motivation for chapters to work hard to pledge them. It evened out the playing field since there was a perception that many of them would continue to live at home, and perhaps not be as desirable financially in the long run. When I was active, all of out townies lived in, so that was moot, but they still didn't count toward quota.
RE TPA: I think one of their largest chapters is at Cincinnati. I wonder if they will be involved in the colonization at Indiana?
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11-17-2011, 11:39 PM
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RE TPA: I think one of their largest chapters is at Cincinnati. I wonder if they will be involved in the colonization at Indiana?
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The colonization occurred in September. I had been told there were some collegians there but not sure if they were Cincy or Northern Kentucky U girls.
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11-23-2011, 03:50 AM
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Actually, Theta Phi at IU is doing extremely well.
We have an outstanding 71 members within the first few months of being here, and have decided to go ahead and do full formal recruitment. We will not be dropping out at 20 party, as was once discussed.
We've had amazing support both from nationals and the IU greek community, and are expecting a wonderful rush! We've worked hard and are more than ready!
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