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Old 11-14-2011, 12:04 PM
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Okay, just to clarify, I'm not saying she is any less guilt or responsible due to this.
I just wanted to point out a couple things.
First, I've looked this up and all but one article say that the students were 14-17 years old. This being the case, some of them would not be her students.
Also, the third article drphil posted stated that she provided alcohol to her teenage daughter and her friends at parties thrown at her house. This is far from having been asked by students at school... Under these circumstances I do not believe you can assume she acted as a predator in the classroom. She had contact with these students because of her teenage daughter, not because she was teaching them.
I understand that you were clarifying the possible context for how she was able to victimize these minors. As you stated, this does not make a difference as far as minor laws are concerned.

It may make a difference for those who care whether they were her current students. Some people do care about that distinction, I don't, but some people do. Those are probably the same people who think an adult giving kids alcohol (in violation of state laws and in a binge drinking culture) is okay as long as the kids are the ones who asked for it and it is done outside of a school environment/relationship.


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CLARIFICATION SINCE NO ONE CAN READ ANYTHING FOR WHAT IT IS
LOL. Breathe easy. No one was coming at you sideways. Threads take a certain tone especially when people feel strongly about a topic. Some GCers in this thread seemed to defend the accused or overstate the obvious "innocent until proven guilty." As I have stated, that would not have happened if this was a man with girls ages 14-17. Those posts set the tone for the remainder of the thread.

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And how often are there 14-15 year old sixth graders really?
That depends on the school district. Anyway, belaboring this point and whether they were ever her students are relatively minute details that we all agree do not remove her from responsibility.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
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I understand that you were clarifying the possible context for how she was able to victimize these minors. As you stated, this does not make a difference as far as minor laws are concerned.

It may make a difference for those who care whether they were her current students. Some people do care about that distinction, I don't, but some people do. Those are probably the same people who think an adult giving kids alcohol (in violation of state laws and in a binge drinking culture) is okay as long as the kids are the ones who asked for it and it is done outside of a school environment/relationship.




LOL. Breathe easy. No one was coming at you sideways. Threads take a certain tone especially when people feel strongly about a topic. Some GCers in this thread seemed to defend the accused or overstate the obvious "innocent until proven guilty." As I have stated, that would not have happened if this was a man with girls ages 14-17. Those posts set the tone for the remainder of the thread.



That depends on the school district. Anyway, belaboring this point and whether they were ever her students are relatively minute details that we all agree do not remove her from responsibility.
Yeah, I just meant to state those things for the people who were making a big deal out of how she was a teacher instead of just an adult who did all this to minors. And I did get frustrated because I feel like people weren't really seeing what I was saying. So I apologize for that.
And I definitely understand where you're coming from with the difference if it was a male teacher with female students. It's not right at all, but unfortunately, that's just how society works :/
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