Colleges With The Most Students In Fraternities: US News

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Then you agree with AlphaFrog. Save your laughter for another time.

No, the Constitution is meaningless without it's interpretation. Even the most conservative justices interpret the Constitution, you have to.

It is the law. While those words are not enumerated in the Constitution, the SCOTUS has established the establishment clause to mean that. Saying otherwise makes you sound ignorant and uninformed (and correctly so).

[Low C Sharp]

DBB, the reason that an Evangelical college can discriminate based on religion, and an HBCU cannot discriminate based on race, is because of the Free Exercise clause. There isn't any counterpart to the Free Exercise clause when it comes to racial association. The government really, really wants to avoid confronting churches about internal religious matters (like who is morally fit to teach young people).

This is a contentious area of the law and it is still developing. The Supreme Court just heard arguments in this type of case this week:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/us...0school&st=cse

[DrPhil]

This is a much better thread than SOM intended. Thanks to DeltaBetaBaby for hijacking.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is a much better thread than SOM intended. Thanks to DeltaBetaBaby for hijacking.

It has taken a very interesting turn. hasn't it?

Actually, schools can do all kinds of things, they just can't accept federal funding if they refuse to accept federal guidelines as to what is or is not acceptable in their choices regarding hiring and admission. For example, Hillsdale College in Michigan is a liberal arts school that had a disagreement about just such a thing.

From their website - http://www.hillsdale.edu/about/history.asp
"It was the first American college to prohibit in its charter any discrimination based on race, religion or sex, and became an early force for the abolition of slavery. It was also only the second college in the nation to grant four-year liberal arts degrees to women."

In the 70s, they had a disagreement with the federal government on affirmative action, leading to a very lengthy lawsuit, the end result of which is that they decided to not accept any federal or state funding of any kind (including Pell grants). They exist on tuition and donations.

[chelsey]

Sorry to hijack the hijacking, but I attend Queens University of Charlotte and there is NO way that 53% of men are in fraternities. Our Pi Kappa Phi chapter currently has about 20 members and 6 associates, and the Phi Kappa Sigma charter has about 15 men in all. I have NO idea where they got these statistics because they are quite frankly, not accurate at all.

[alum]

Originally Posted by chelsey

Sorry to hijack the hijacking, but I attend Queens University of Charlotte and there is NO way that 53% of men are in fraternities. Our Pi Kappa Phi chapter currently has about 20 members and 6 associates, and the Phi Kappa Sigma charter has about 15 men in all. I have NO idea where they got these statistics because they are quite frankly, not accurate at all.

I agree with you. The 2009-2010 QU IDS reports that 18.5% of freshmen males and 10.7% of male undergraduates joined a fraternity. The female rates are 16.2% and 10.9% respectively.