University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign Recruitment - Page 21

DeltaBetaBaby · #**301** 09-20-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

Combined with that, they may have mis-read the interest of a lot of women, and/or not turned in flex lists as recommended.

Another possibility is that they were competing primarily with one or two other houses.

my money's on these two possibilities. Is RFM fairly new to this campus?

This is either the fifth or sixth year it's been used.

DG Illinois · #**302** 09-20-2011, 02:33 PM

Quota was 53.
I didn't mean for it to sound negative, but for one house to get 40 girls while others are getting in the high 60's and 80's. that is almost double the difference.
There were snap bids for a few other houses as well. I heard right around 20 total snap bids that they were rushing to put together in the morning before bid day.

DG Illinois · #**303** 09-20-2011, 02:46 PM

I think I heard it was implemented in 2005.
If it were my house I would be be concerned and I do feel bad that something happened where 14 new pledges never got to experience pref night etc. The system worked incredibly well for a lot of the houses,
with a lot of houses exceeding quota dramatically.
But I knew a lot of girls that loved this house and lost it and the part I'm most worried about is that more girls may suicide now which is the wrong message.
I'm not sure if all of them suicided either, some of them may of dropped out.

DeltaBetaBaby · #**304** 09-20-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DG Illinois

Quota was 53.
I didn't mean for it to sound negative, but for one house to get 40 girls while others are getting in the high 60's and 80's. that is almost double the difference.
There were snap bids for a few other houses as well. I heard right around 20 total snap bids that they were rushing to put together in the morning before bid day.

Well, I have a lot of opinions on things that are wrong at UIUC rush, but I won't air them all here. I will say that the rho chi training leaves a lot to be desired, and I think that can have a much bigger impact than people realize.

KDCat · #**305** 09-20-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DG Illinois

Quota was 53.
I didn't mean for it to sound negative, but for one house to get 40 girls while others are getting in the high 60's and 80's. that is almost double the difference.
There were snap bids for a few other houses as well. I heard right around 20 total snap bids that they were rushing to put together in the morning before bid day.

Something went wrong, or a ton of girls suicided. There are statistics at the Dean's office. In past years, nearly every chapter filled its quota through computer matching. It will be interesting to see what this year's numbers look.

Here's the recruitment numbers:
http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/greek/membe...lenicStats.asp

And here's the grade reports for spring 2011, which list the number of members for each house:
http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/greek/schol.../panGrades.asp

LaneSig · #**306** 09-20-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KDCat

Something went wrong, or a ton of girls suicided. There are statistics at the Dean's office. In past years, nearly every chapter filled its quota through computer matching. It will be interesting to see what this year's numbers look.

http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/greek/membe...lenicStats.asp

Someone needs to check their math. I was looking at the Stats (I'm a Stat addict), the averages are way off if they are just using the last 5 years.

KDCat · #**307** 09-20-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig

Someone needs to check their math. I was looking at the Stats (I'm a Stat addict), the averages are way off if they are just using the last 5 years.

Yeah. Not really sure how they got 90 for the average number of people who withdraw after open house, or 49 for the number of withdrawals after 1st invitational, when the number of withdrawals for every year are lower than that.

DubaiSis · #**308** 09-20-2011, 03:03 PM

I'm assuming they've been keeping track of these figures since before 2006. For RFM to work, didn't they start tracking the numbers (and running RFM parrallel to hand matching) 2 or 3 years before they did away with the old system?

DeltaBetaBaby · #**309** 09-20-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis

I'm assuming they've been keeping track of these figures since before 2006. For RFM to work, didn't they start tracking the numbers (and running RFM parrallel to hand matching) 2 or 3 years before they did away with the old system?

The numbers have been tracked for decades. Before RFM, they used the weighted average method which also required such numbers. Even back then, though, very few women were ever released from all groups, unless they had serious grade issues.

ComradesTrue · #**310** 09-20-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KDCat

And here's the grade reports for spring 2011, which list the number of members for each house:
http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/greek/schol.../panGrades.asp

Interesting chapter numbers. THere are three groups that COB'd classes of 40+ in the spring. One of those groups wound up with total of 175, which is one of the highest totals on the list. What is official chapter total?

irishpipes · #**311** 09-20-2011, 03:16 PM

AOII pledged 63

irishpipes · #**312** 09-20-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93

What is official chapter total?

170

DeltaBetaBaby · #**313** 09-20-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93

Interesting chapter numbers. THere are three groups that COB'd classes of 40+ in the spring. One of those groups wound up with total of 175, which is one of the highest totals on the list. What is official chapter total?

No, the grade reports are messed up, in which groups had NM's in the spring. Those are definitely the fall classes for Gamma Phi Beta, AEPhi and Alpha Phi.

A few chapters look like they COB'ed above total, but I think this has something to do with rules on what happens to women who are student teaching or something like that. I don't remember, exactly, but I think there are women who show up on grade reports who don't count in total. Either that, or they issued bids above total and nobody did anything about it.

ComradesTrue · #**314** 09-20-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

170

Interesting. There are 5 groups that took new members in the spring and their total members exceeds 170, according to the grade list. Am I missing something?

I am still amazed at 3 groups basically taking a second formal recruitment-sized class in the spring. Good for them, I just have not heard of COB classes being that large before.

DeltaBetaBaby · #**315** 09-20-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93

Interesting. There are 5 groups that took new members in the spring and their total members exceeds 170, according to the grade list. Am I missing something?

I am still amazed at 3 groups basically taking a second formal recruitment-sized class in the spring. Good for them, I just have not heard of COB classes being that large before.

We cross-posted. Those are not spring classes.