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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
As an aside - because this drives me crazy - Disney does not sponsor Gay Days - various and sundry QUILTBAG groups organize it and go to the parks, just like any other group. It drives me crazy when Christians don't do their homework and boycott Disney because an outside group goes to the parks. I guess some might argue that Disney should somehow use gaydar to refuse admittance to those there for Gay Days, but those people are what I like to call stupid.
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Yeah it was just the only thing I could think of that involved a boycott so I made the point stretch because well, I don't care what Christians boycott?
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow
At the risk of dragging this on...
That's really not JCP's job. This is a time where I feel that a parent should step in and say "Wow, Susie, this shirt is stupid. I hope you don't ever feel that pretty > smart." rather than "I WANT A MANAGER. WHO SELLS THINGS LIKE THIS??"
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Your imagining is far more dramatic than mine, but ok. What about writing an email or letter complaining or posting the picture on your blog and complaining. Why is that something that should be done in private and not in public.
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It was obviously meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Should we petition malls to remove Spencers since teen girls have to walk past the store to get to their destinations?
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Not really comparable. But
you could if you wanted to.
And tongue-in-cheek can exist without sexism (or racism. God could you imagine if someone had made the racist equivalent to this shirt).
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They took it down because of the complaints. Multiple people (buyers, web designers, managers, etc) saw the item without incident but it didn't become an issue until that petition was started.
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They took it down though, it isn't the 'fault' of any one complainer. Shockingly we live in a sexist society and we don't know what was in the designer's head, but odds are web designers and store managers don't get much of an opinion.
And yet if you look on line there are tons of offensive shirts sold by companies who don't give a fuck. So obviously the company gives a fuck about the support of its customers.
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@ the bold - That's my point. If I don't support that shirt, I won't buy it. If I don't support that store, I don't shop there. knight_shadow is not representative of the masses, so just because it doesn't suit ME doesn't mean that there isn't someone else out there who likes it.
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Sure, but it wasn't one person who got this pulled. It was one person who showed friends who thought it was also offensive who posted it on sites that talk about sexism and where commenters ALSO thought it was offensive and on and on. That's how this works.
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I understand why JCP did what they did. My issue, again, was with the petitioners.
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The idea that women should shut up and not make a big old public fuss is another sexist idea that keeps getting shoved down women's throats. If we're offended there's not a damn thing wrong with speaking up about it. That's all this is, speech.
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Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie
That's the best part - if you wanted to petition them, you could, and if they felt that having Spencers in their mall outweighed having your business, they'd tell you to take a flying leap. That's the beauty of a free market (and a free country). I have petitioned, written letters, and protested against things that I find offensive. I do it as much to exercise my right to free speech as I do because I think it might make a difference.
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Preach on my sister.