Bid Lists 2011

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I do encourage pnms to write; I am not going to contact them personally in case they did NOT have a successful recruitment and the last thing they need is a reminder. I would like to see the CHAPTERS be pro-active. Usually there is an alumna who is responsible for handling recs - she would seem to be the perfect person to do it. After recruitment she should have a little time to express the appreciation each chapter should have to those alumnae who write recs.

Some Gamma Phi chapters are pro-active - I send a self-addressed stamped envelope with a sheet listing all the young women for whom I have written recs. Some chapters return it, and some don't, so I think it fair to say that IHQ doesn't have a policy on it. Claiming privacy issues makes no sense. Sending me the results of those for whom I have written recs is in no way, shape or form a privacy risk for the girls - I already have their information, don't I? And it's not just idle curiosity. Our alumnae panhellenic has actives come and speak to pnm high school seniors in the spring, and we try to get a mix of chapters and campuses. Knowing where local girls are enables us to provide the best possible information to our high school seniors.

eta - and the "sad sad" was a "Daria" reference. Yes, I am old.

Do you mean Sick Sad World the news program that played on Daria?

So why not contact their family if they are local if you don't want to ask the young woman in the event she wasn't successful? Ask one of those local actives invited by your alumnae panhellenic for the information? Use all of your resources instead of counting on collegians to mail back your sheet or contact you? Find out who the alumna is who handles the recs and contact her (totally foreign to me, and not specifically for Alpha Gam, must be a thing where you live for bigger recruitment's) instead of the current situation.

The information is obviously very important to you, but the way we think our collegiate sisters should act, behave, and respond is not going to realistically change or happen so to get the information you're going to need to get creative while realizing we're not their priority and privacy is a factor, whether you believe it or like it. I'll own that I am currently a bit more sensitive to privacy and safety as a former professor murdered an alumna of my chapter last week, but frankly between that and the alumna perp thread it is obvious people aren't always what they seem.

[SWTXBelle]

Thank you - "Sick, Sad World" is what I meant.

If you will read my responses, you will see that it is not the collegians who I think should be doing this, but the alumna in charge of recommendations. I will take the suggestions to write BEFORE recruitment to encourage the pnms to contact me after recruitment. I wouldn't contact the families for the same reason I wouldn't contact the young women after recruitment. Also, I clearly stated why I was interested. I understand that you are sensitive to privacy concerns, but those don't factor in to my request that alumnae advisors let those sisters who send recs know the result of recruitment. Some Gamma Phi chapters even have pre-made cards they send. It doesn't take a great deal of time to check ___ did not pledge __ pledged Gamma Phi ___ pledged _____. That's it - you can do it under a minute. Those chapters who have crazy-go-nuts pledge classes also tend to be the chapters who have alumnae committees dealing with recs, so it isn't even a case of one woman being overwhelmed.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Thank you - "Sick, Sad World" is what I meant.

If you will read my responses, you will see that it is not the collegians who I think should be doing this, but the alumna in charge of recommendations. I will take the suggestions to write BEFORE recruitment to encourage the pnms to contact me after recruitment. I wouldn't contact the families for the same reason I wouldn't contact the young women after recruitment. Also, I clearly stated why I was interested. I understand that you are sensitive to privacy concerns, but those don't factor in to my request that alumnae advisors let those sisters who send recs know the result of recruitment. Some Gamma Phi chapters even have pre-made cards they send. It doesn't take a great deal of time to check ___ did not pledge __ pledged Gamma Phi ___ pledged _____. That's it - you can do it under a minute. Those chapters who have crazy-go-nuts pledge classes also tend to be the chapters who have alumnae committees dealing with recs, so it isn't even a case of one woman being overwhelmed.

Idea...maybe a bad one, but...why don't you have those printed up and sent along with your rec to the GPhi chapter? Filled out with the PNM's name, a stamp and your address to return to? Then just send a sticky note on it to have the chapter please check the appropriate box and send to you once they know her status? Then all the "work" is done for them & they just have to check the box?

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Idea...maybe a bad one, but...why don't you have those printed up and sent along with your rec to the GPhi chapter? Filled out with the PNM's name, a stamp and your address to return to? Then just send a sticky note on it to have the chapter please check the appropriate box and send to you once they know her status? Then all the "work" is done for them & they just have to check the box?

That's basically what I do - I send a list of the pnms with a line to fill in IF they pledged - if it's blank, they didn't pledge. I send it with a stamped, self-addressed envelope. Again, some return it; some don't.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

That's basically what I do - I send a list of the pnms with a line to fill in IF they pledged - if it's blank, they didn't pledge. I send it with a stamped, self-addressed envelope. Again, some return it; some don't.

Gotcha. Missed that.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Idea...maybe a bad one, but...why don't you have those printed up and sent along with your rec to the GPhi chapter? Filled out with the PNM's name, a stamp and your address to return to? Then just send a sticky note on it to have the chapter please check the appropriate box and send to you once they know her status? Then all the "work" is done for them & they just have to check the box?

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

That's basically what I do - I send a list of the pnms with a line to fill in IF they pledged - if it's blank, they didn't pledge. I send it with a stamped, self-addressed envelope. Again, some return it; some don't.

What SWTXBelle is doing ought to be more than enough to get the info she wants. There's interest in maintaining safety, and then in contrast, there's disregard for alumnae service in the form of writing recs. If an alumna provides that degree of help in terms of doing the recs and providing her own results form to a chapter with a self-addressed stamped envelope, it shouldn't be asking to much to get the form returned with a little info about what happened to each woman.

I mainly write RIFs to UGA, Auburn and Alabama. Auburn and Alabama acknowledge receiving them and let me know the link to the web bid lists and when it will be up. UGA sends me individual cards with the results for each girl, but because of the work involved with the numbers of PNMs they have, I don't usually get them until long after recruitment.

I really appreciate their efforts.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I mainly write RIFs to UGA, Auburn and Alabama. Auburn and Alabama acknowledge receiving them and let me know the link to the web bid lists and when it will be up. UGA sends me individual cards with the results for each girl, but because of the work involved with the numbers of PNMs they have, I don't usually get them until long after recruitment.

I've had the same experience with DG at UGA (individual cards that take a long time) and Auburn (link to bid list after reception of rec). Funny how different sororities are the same in this regard!