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Old 08-12-2011, 06:02 PM
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Does anyone read what was actually said? The quote was "pond life" not "pond scum". These have very different meanings, and by the way, the comment was my sister's, a Greek alumna, who would seem to me to be well qualified to offer her opinion.
Actually, it was "pond life (Brit for 'bottom feeder')."

Sorry, but it was snide of your sister to say it, it was snide of you to repeat it, and it putting it out there gives you no room to criticize others for any lack of ladylike behavior.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:36 PM
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Actually, it was "pond life (Brit for 'bottom feeder')."

Sorry, but it was snide of your sister to say it, it was snide of you to repeat it, and it putting it out there gives you no room to criticize others for any lack of ladylike behavior.

Well, there is a difference between what you refer to as a snide comment and such ladylike phrases as 'not worth jack shit' and 'blow me'. I have not uttered any vulgarities or suggestions that I perform anatomically challenging acts which incidentally are not something I would do even if possible. I have been restrained in my responses as a gentleman ought. I cannot say the same for those who uttered the comments to which I referred.

Now, I believe you are male. Am I correct? If so I suggest that we address this matter in a traditional manner. Pistols for two, coffee for one. If that is not to your liking we could always discuss it at a mutually convenient gym.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:43 PM
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Now, I believe you are male. Am I correct? If so I suggest that we address this matter in a traditional manner. Pistols for two, coffee for one. If that is not to your liking we could always discuss it at a mutually convenient gym.
My money's on MC.

If you two were admitted in any of the same states, you could have it out in court.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:44 PM
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Now, I believe you are male. Am I correct? If so I suggest that we address this matter in a traditional manner. Pistols for two, coffee for one. If that is not to your liking we could always discuss it at a mutually convenient gym.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:59 PM
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This is a huge no on boots with a dress. Srsly, straight from the wardrobe of Blossom & Six.
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Sheeeit, in the Pacific Northwest I wouldn't be surprised if they're wearing tights and boots with their dresses right now - I've heard it's been a rather chilly summer.
I don't think it is too cold this summer, it has been too hot for me as of late. Too hot being over 75 degrees. I'm seriously sitting on my couch with boxed sangria from Target in my pink tiki straw cup with frozen fruit in it because it is 85 degrees outside.

So umm yeah, NorCal, kind of a contentious term for me, though not as bad as Frisco or Cali. The only person who can ever get away with calling it Cali is L.L. Cool J if he's singing to me. The whole thing is had to define, where does it start, Monterey? Does the central valley get included? What about the Sierras? To be truthful the area around San Francisco aka the Bay Area is nothing like the coastal communities, the Central Valley, or the Sierras. The people in those areas can be much more rural, white, conservative, and oh, kind of like where I live now.

I see people with their Nor Cal pride stuff, giant ass decals, always on pick ups here, t-shirts, and so on, but I don't know anyone who wears it (it is sold in Zumiez, which is a mall chain, which we have where I live). There's definitely a streak of provincialism that comes out of me when people say they are from San Francisco and are really living in oh, San Bruno or Walnut Creek. There is nothing wrong with being from the Peninsula or the East Bay, but if your area code isn't 415 and you didn't live in The City, be loud and proud. Inside San Francisco proper, we break it down by neighborhoods and get provincial on the provincial.

Perhaps one way to designate the difference is if people in a community say 101 or "the 101" when mentioning their freeways. Hella and like would have worked but ten years ago No Doubt fouled that one up with their album Hella Good.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:58 PM
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Perhaps one way to designate the difference is if people in a community say 101 or "the 101" when mentioning their freeways. Hella and like would have worked but ten years ago No Doubt fouled that one up with their album Hella Good.
This is how we spot Californians up here in Seattle. The Natives do NOT put a "the" in front of 405, I-5, etc. It's funny, because I don't use "the" when referring to those freeways up here, but when I go down to L.A. or am referring to the freeways - the SAME freeways - in L.A., I suddenly say "the 405."
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:23 PM
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This is how we spot Californians up here in Seattle. The Natives do NOT put a "the" in front of 405, I-5, etc. It's funny, because I don't use "the" when referring to those freeways up here, but when I go down to L.A. or am referring to the freeways - the SAME freeways - in L.A., I suddenly say "the 405."
Southern Californians prefix with "the" we don't do that where I'm from, which is definitely Northern California.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:39 PM
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AlphaFrog: I love your example from your fashion shoot. You look lovely. But I venture a guess that if a pnm showed up in that outfit for Pref it would be the talk of the row.

As you know fashion shoots are different than real life. But yes, boots with dresses can been done successfully.
It wouldn't work here, at the UofA. Just a very different style of dressing overall. Now I'm gonna be searching for the boots + dress look on campus.

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Southern Californians prefix with "the" we don't do that where I'm from, which is definitely Northern California.
Boy you are really driving me down memory lane! I'd completely forgotten about the absence of the article "the" when talking freeways.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:36 PM
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Well, there is a difference between what you refer to as a snide comment and such ladylike phrases as 'not worth jack shit' and 'blow me'. I have not uttered any vulgarities or suggestions that I perform anatomically challenging acts which incidentally are not something I would do even if possible. I have been restrained in my responses as a gentleman ought. I cannot say the same for those who uttered the comments to which I referred.
Sorry, but I don't think there need to be degrees of impoliteness here. I'm just saying that when someone has come on with an outfit that she clearly likes and thinks she might look good in, and when her question is whether it would be appropriate for a specific event, is there really a need to suggest it looks like what a "bottom feeder" would wear? As far as that goes, does a gentleman even utter those kinds of judgments in public?

I think that if he does, he doesn't get to criticize the manners of others.


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Now, I believe you are male. Am I correct? If so I suggest that we address this matter in a traditional manner. Pistols for two, coffee for one. If that is not to your liking we could always discuss it at a mutually convenient gym.
I am male, but as I also think that I remember you're a lawyer, I'll offer a different sort of dual: We meet in court and then beers afterward.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:59 PM
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Sorry, but I don't think there need to be degrees of impoliteness here. I'm just saying that when someone has come on with an outfit that she clearly likes and thinks she might look good in, and when her question is whether it would be appropriate for a specific event, is there really a need to suggest it looks like what a "bottom feeder" would wear? As far as that goes, does a gentleman even utter those kinds of judgments in public?

I think that if he does, he doesn't get to criticize the manners of others.


I am male, but as I also think that I remember you're a lawyer, I'll offer a different sort of dual: We meet in court and then beers afterward.
Lawyer fight... See who can draft a brief in Bluebook, ALWD and the Redbook the fastest? Do research without the use of We-Xis, keep a straight face while listening to a Whitebread barbri lecture?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:37 PM
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Do research without the use of We-Xis, . . .
Hey, I went to law school when Shepherds was still a shelf-full of books that you had to look through one by one, and there was no internet. Piece of cake.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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Sorry, but I don't think there need to be degrees of impoliteness here. I'm just saying that when someone has come on with an outfit that she clearly likes and thinks she might look good in, and when her question is whether it would be appropriate for a specific event, is there really a need to suggest it looks like what a "bottom feeder" would wear? As far as that goes, does a gentleman even utter those kinds of judgments in public?

I think that if he does, he doesn't get to criticize the manners of others.


I am male, but as I also think that I remember you're a lawyer, I'll offer a different sort of dual: We meet in court and then beers afterward.

I must admit that in principle I have to agree with you. This silly exchange got off track and out of control over what I was intending as a cautionary comment. I have observed perfectly nice girls being cut to ribbons over a minor mis-step in their appearance during rush and was trying to be helpful. My sister's comment was very much in keeping with what I was afraid might happen. It was a snide remark but I thought it captured and demonstrated what I had hoped to head off. The PNM seemed to be a very nice girl who has done her homework and was seeking advice. My good intention went horribly wrong as I think the response triggered a resentment at what was seen by some as intrusion into a 'closed shop'. No intrusion was intended but when I was ordered to get out of the thread my reaction was to reject orders given by one who lacked the authority to issue said orders.
Anyway, I hope this issue has come to an end and as to our dispute I propose an ADR solution: When you are next in London please be my guest at my Inn of Court (Inner Temple) for lunch and a brew or three or perhaps a bit of claret. Afterwards we could observe English trial procedure at the Royal Courts of Justice across the street. Similar and different at the same time. PM me if OK with you. I think this thread has been off-subject far too long and absent any more attacks I now withdraw. Cheers.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:21 PM
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I must admit that in principle I have to agree with you. This silly exchange got off track and out of control over what I was intending as a cautionary comment. I have observed perfectly nice girls being cut to ribbons over a minor mis-step in their appearance during rush and was trying to be helpful. My sister's comment was very much in keeping with what I was afraid might happen. It was a snide remark but I thought it captured and demonstrated what I had hoped to head off. The PNM seemed to be a very nice girl who has done her homework and was seeking advice. My good intention went horribly wrong as I think the response triggered a resentment at what was seen by some as intrusion into a 'closed shop'. No intrusion was intended but when I was ordered to get out of the thread my reaction was to reject orders given by one who lacked the authority to issue said orders.
Anyway, I hope this issue has come to an end and as to our dispute I propose an ADR solution: When you are next in London please be my guest at my Inn of Court (Inner Temple) for lunch and a brew or three or perhaps a bit of claret. Afterwards we could observe English trial procedure at the Royal Courts of Justice across the street. Similar and different at the same time. PM me if OK with you. I think this thread has been off-subject far too long and absent any more attacks I now withdraw. Cheers.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:35 PM
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I must admit that in principle I have to agree with you. This silly exchange got off track and out of control over what I was intending as a cautionary comment. I have observed perfectly nice girls being cut to ribbons over a minor mis-step in their appearance during rush and was trying to be helpful. My sister's comment was very much in keeping with what I was afraid might happen. It was a snide remark but I thought it captured and demonstrated what I had hoped to head off. The PNM seemed to be a very nice girl who has done her homework and was seeking advice. My good intention went horribly wrong as I think the response triggered a resentment at what was seen by some as intrusion into a 'closed shop'. No intrusion was intended but when I was ordered to get out of the thread my reaction was to reject orders given by one who lacked the authority to issue said orders.
Anyway, I hope this issue has come to an end and as to our dispute I propose an ADR solution: When you are next in London please be my guest at my Inn of Court (Inner Temple) for lunch and a brew or three or perhaps a bit of claret. Afterwards we could observe English trial procedure at the Royal Courts of Justice across the street. Similar and different at the same time. PM me if OK with you. I think this thread has been off-subject far too long and absent any more attacks I now withdraw. Cheers.
Read:
1. "I made a comment that was out of line and inappropriate about a topic in which I have no expertise."
2. "I called someone sexist for telling me to stay in my lane without admitting the absolutely sexist nature of my first comment."
3. "I'm better than her and you and everyone else, blah blah blah."
4. "I'm not sorry for being a douchecanoe."
5. "I'm better than you blah blah blah."
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Read:
1. "I made a comment that was out of line and inappropriate about a topic in which I have no expertise."
2. "I called someone sexist for telling me to stay in my lane without admitting the absolutely sexist nature of my first comment."
3. "I'm better than her and you and everyone else, blah blah blah."
4. "I'm not sorry for being a douchecanoe."
5. "I'm better than you blah blah blah."

It would seem that my error was thinking that you understood the English language. Your analysis suggests that your fluency is in another language entirely. Frankly Scarlett...
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