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Old 07-20-2011, 02:55 PM
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Throw in free abortions and I won't call this a fascist/corporatist bill anymore (even though it still is)

--As an addendum, I think you're smart enough to know that there is nothing free DrPhil. I mean, maybe you aren't. Just call it as is: Women should get birth control paid for by money stolen from other people, panel says.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:37 PM
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--As an addendum, I think you're smart enough to know that there is nothing free DrPhil. I mean, maybe you aren't. Just call it as is: Women should get birth control paid for by money stolen from other people, panel says.
Too bad your mother wasn't on effective birth control.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:50 PM
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Too bad your mother wasn't on effective birth control.
Excellent response!

Embarassing. If you have anything of substance to rebut my statement, go ahead. But you don't, so you resort to silly attacks.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:56 PM
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Embarassing. If you have anything of substance to rebut my statement, go ahead. But you don't, so you resort to silly attacks.
It's embarrassing to all of us that you think the counterpoint is somehow difficult to find.

However, I'll bite - it's simple math: the cost of contraception is likely much, MUCH less of a burden on the average taxpayer than the costs of unwanted children to individuals who cannot (or do not want to) support them.

Sunk costs are still sunk - there is no shame in sinking them more efficiently.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:34 PM
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It's embarrassing to all of us that you think the counterpoint is somehow difficult to find.

However, I'll bite - it's simple math: the cost of contraception is likely much, MUCH less of a burden on the average taxpayer than the costs of unwanted children to individuals who cannot (or do not want to) support them.

Sunk costs are still sunk - there is no shame in sinking them more efficiently.
If you're under the conception that the taxpayer should pay for the unwanted children, then yes, you can believe that.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:37 PM
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If you're under the conception that the taxpayer should pay for the unwanted children, then yes, you can believe that.
No, I'm operating under the reality that taxpayers already do.

In that scenario (which is, well, reality), any step forward is a good one. You have to disabuse yourself of the notion that only fundamental change is good change, or you'll be a sad panda forever.

"Should" is a stupid word.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:57 PM
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Excellent response!

Embarassing. If you have anything of substance to rebut my statement, go ahead. But you don't, so you resort to silly attacks.
You are the dumbass who thinks the word "free" in this context means that people think unicorns come from the Heavens to shit preventive health services on the masses.

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Old 07-20-2011, 03:58 PM
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You are the dumbass who thinks the word "free" in this context means that people think unicorns come from the Heavens to shit preventive health services on the masses.


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