"Christian" GLOs

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Ok great. Then I'll word it this way: I've spent my entire life down here and it is part of the culture, even for the non-religious/non-Christian. Doesn't change the point.

Uh...what? LOL. I'm only talking about the southern part of your post.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Uh...what? LOL. I'm only talking about the southern part of your post.

As was I. Specifically this phenomenon:

Originally Posted by BluPhire

I love how people look at New York and LA as the North and everything else is the South.

I understand what Alumiyum is trying to say, but the problem is she is ascribing it as a southern stereotype, when it is a US stereotype. Outside of the cities of California religious diversity isn't something that is common. And don't get started on New York vs NYC.

I am not talking about regions that are homogeneous religion-wise...I'm talking about the virulent southern baptist contingent.

Disclaimer: No offense to baptists (my parents grew up southern baptist, but became methodists after the conservative views expected of them got a little OOC)...it just seems that particular flavor attracts the most vocal element down here.

[DSTRen13]

That is a horrible map; I can't tell what exactly it is supposed to be showing? Here are some more informative (and labeled!) ones: http://religions.pewforum.org/maps

I suppose if you consider Southern Baptists to be the only Christians who "count" for your purposes, they certainly are concentrated in the South, but I really don't get it ...

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

That is a horrible map; I can't tell what exactly it is supposed to be showing? Here are some more informative (and labeled!) ones: http://religions.pewforum.org/maps

I suppose if you consider Southern Baptists to be the only Christians who "count" for your purposes, they certainly are concentrated in the South, but I really don't get it ...

Beat me to it. This map only shows the concentration of one group. Last I checked one group doesn't have the monopoly on closed-mindedness.

Heck being a Protestant going to Catholic School, I'll never forget the nun telling me I was going to hell because I wasn't Catholic....and that was not in the South.

Again it is an American thing, not a Southern thing. I understand what you are saying, but it isn't a Southern Stereotype. Reality I would ascribe it more so to the fact that the South as a block votes red and your "blue states" are only really blue because those states have a large urban center.

Which is why States like Virginia and North Carolina are starting to become more blue because of the growth of Charlotte and the DC metro area which is attracting a more diverse crowd, not because there is a mental shift in philosophy.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

Beat me to it. This map only shows the concentration of one group. Last I checked one group doesn't have the monopoly on closed-mindedness.

Heck being a Protestant going to Catholic School, I'll never forget the nun telling me I was going to hell because I wasn't Catholic....and that was not in the South.

Again it is an American thing, not a Southern thing. I understand what you are saying, but it isn't a Southern Stereotype. Reality I would ascribe it more so to the fact that the South as a block votes red and your "blue states" are only really blue because those states have a large urban center.

Which is why States like Virginia and North Carolina are starting to become more blue because of the growth of Charlotte and the DC metro area which is attracting a more diverse crowd, not because there is a mental shift in philosophy.

Please refer to the above post where I say that I am referring to a different variety of a common phenomenon. Southern Baptist and Catholic might produce the same result, but in different ways, that's for sure.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

That is a horrible map; I can't tell what exactly it is supposed to be showing? Here are some more informative (and labeled!) ones: http://religions.pewforum.org/maps

I suppose if you consider Southern Baptists to be the only Christians who "count" for your purposes, they certainly are concentrated in the South, but I really don't get it ...

I'm still amused by the posting of maps. We all already know about regional religious demographics.

The point that was supposed to be made is about chapters, of organizations that are not "religious sororities/fraternities," being identified by the religious affiliation (usually Christian) of the majority of its membership. This includes chapters using Bible scriptures and other things to symbolize religion; and the potential for nonChristians to feel uncomfortable and unwanted. That does not just happen in the south.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I'm still amused by the posting of maps. We all already know about regional religious demographics.

The point that was supposed to be made is about chapters, of organizations that are not "religious sororities/fraternities," being identified by the religious affiliation (usually Christian) of the majority of its membership. This includes chapters using Bible scriptures and other things to symbolize religion; and the potential for nonChristians to feel uncomfortable and unwanted. That does not just happen in the south.

As you can see, I personally agree completely that general occurrence is in no way regulated to the south. I am, however, referring to a certain flavor of that phenomenon, which is regulated to the south.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

...I personally agree completely that general occurrence is in no way regulated to the south.

Good.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I am, however, referring to a certain flavor of that phenomenon, which is regulated to the south.

If you're talking about the southern Baptist cultural phenomenon of course it would be relegated to the south and to nonsouthern areas in which those who subscribe to southern Baptist culture live.

Is that the only thing you were talking about when discussing religion and Christianity, in general? If so, that's also problematic because what you described happens in GLO chapters outside of the southern Baptist cultural phenomenon. But at least you have now clarified.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Good.



If you're talking about the southern Baptist cultural phenomenon of course it would be relegated to the south and to nonsouthern areas in which those who subscribe to southern Baptist culture live.

Is that the only thing you were talking about when discussing religion and Christianity, in general? If so, that's also problematic because what you described happens in GLO chapters outside of the southern Baptist cultural phenomenon. But at least you have now clarified.

Yep. I clarified several times. Glad that's now been observed.