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05-17-2011, 02:24 AM
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Hello,
I just wanted to clarify what she meant. We weren't using KBG to get on campus, we were a campus recognized organization before we were KBG. At the time, our founders did seek national status, but at the time did not have the requirements to become an NPC organization (obviously.) They sought recognition by another NPC organization, but that also didn't work out. All our founders wanted was national recognition with a sorority that held similar ideals. Then they found Kappa Beta Gamma. The #1 reason why girls at our school don't want to join us is because because they know we're not an NPC organization on our campus, as opposed to DZ, AST, and ASA (who just came to our campus a year ago). While we love our chapter, and we all worked hard to get where we are, our time on our campus is questionable. While I'm not personally sure about the idea of being absorbed, I can understand her frustration.
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05-17-2011, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tosfadKBG
Hello,
I just wanted to clarify what she meant. We weren't using KBG to get on campus, we were a campus recognized organization before we were KBG. At the time, our founders did seek national status, but at the time did not have the requirements to become an NPC organization (obviously.) They sought recognition by another NPC organization, but that also didn't work out. All our founders wanted was national recognition with a sorority that held similar ideals. Then they found Kappa Beta Gamma. The #1 reason why girls at our school don't want to join us is because because they know we're not an NPC organization on our campus, as opposed to DZ, AST, and ASA (who just came to our campus a year ago). While we love our chapter, and we all worked hard to get where we are, our time on our campus is questionable. While I'm not personally sure about the idea of being absorbed, I can understand her frustration.
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Seems like you're putting your chapter so far above your organization that you can't even see it anymore. Although not NPC, KBG is national, no? And, as such, has organizational ideals and processes. While I think chapter is important (especially on the collegiate level), it's not the be-all-end-all of greek life.
Having a tough time recruiting =/= "ZOMG THIS ORG SUCKS LETS FIND A NEW ONE!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!"
NPC chapters that are having a tough time recruiting (and there are tons of them) can't just switch organizations at the drop of a hat - they either improve their recruiting or are closed, and the members can never join another sorority again (effectively). You guys should possibly consider what that means.
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05-17-2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by agzg
Seems like you're putting your chapter so far above your organization that you can't even see it anymore. Although not NPC, KBG is national, no? And, as such, has organizational ideals and processes. While I think chapter is important (especially on the collegiate level), it's not the be-all-end-all of greek life.
Having a tough time recruiting =/= "ZOMG THIS ORG SUCKS LETS FIND A NEW ONE!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!"
NPC chapters that are having a tough time recruiting (and there are tons of them) can't just switch organizations at the drop of a hat - they either improve their recruiting or are closed, and the members can never join another sorority again (effectively). You guys should possibly consider what that means.
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I understand that. Like I said, I wasn't sure about the whole seeking absorption idea, I was just saying how I can understand her frustration. I wouldn't be too quick to jump on the NPC boat just yet. We have enough chapters now to join NPC, but we need to wait two years or something like that (after the last chapter was installed) to apply for NPC affiliation. But no, I agree, our founders and alumni wouldn't be very happy if we were to get absorbed. I get that. Don't attack me
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05-17-2011, 01:48 PM
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Don't attack me 
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05-17-2011, 01:52 PM
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LOL.
Wait...is this a serious thread?
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05-17-2011, 07:55 PM
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And none for agzg.
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You go Gusteau!
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Originally Posted by tosfadKBG
I understand that. Like I said, I wasn't sure about the whole seeking absorption idea, I was just saying how I can understand her frustration. I wouldn't be too quick to jump on the NPC boat just yet. We have enough chapters now to join NPC, but we need to wait two years or something like that (after the last chapter was installed) to apply for NPC affiliation. But no, I agree, our founders and alumni wouldn't be very happy if we were to get absorbed. I get that. Don't attack me 
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I'm not attacking you - actually this is as nice as I've been to crazypants people on GC in a while - I'm just saying - changing orgs isn't necessarily the solution to your problem.
If the members are lazy as K_K suggests, they're going to be lazy members of an NPC chapter. If you have problems like this now, it's unlikely that an NPC would be willing to absorb you just to close you down.
It's not a complete solution, but a good way to get the ball rolling would be to find the things that motivate your sisters. Reward them for working hard by having a spa day, or something fun to do after. Make things fun for them, instead of stressful. Get them all to read I Heart Recruitment (book club style if you have to). Part of the problem with motivating members of small chapters is that it's just so stressful to deal with. Find a way to mitigate that.
Set realistic goals that challenge the chapter but don't beat them. Things like "talk to one new non-member outside of class per week." Take the rejection in stride and move on to the next.
You know what I heard as an active? "I don't want to join Alpha Gamma Delta because they're all fat." That became "I don't want to join Alpha Gamma Delta because they're all stuck up bitches" in my last year as a collegian. Of course none of it was true but it was what those girls thought. I can't hate them for not getting how awesome my organization is, and most of them found happy places elsewhere.
And get K_K off the internet. Girl needs to take a pill.
Last edited by agzg; 05-17-2011 at 08:00 PM.
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