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					Originally Posted by AnotherKD  Oh for god's sake, it was hyperbole. |  Which is often not needed for a well-informed discussion.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by AnotherKD  Anyways, a military operation with SEAL Team 6 is a lot different than any police operation that I feel like you are talking about. |  You obviously didn't read or understand either of my disclaimers. 
  
And I was responding to your hyperbolic response to Splash.
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					Originally Posted by DrPhil  You obviously didn't read or understand either of my disclaimers. 
 |  The paragraphs leading up to your disclaimers had absolutely nothing to add to this topic, as you were talking of police operations. "20 shots to center mass" may be hyperbolic, but it is safe to say that if in a military operation, if some "offender" (which I still have to laugh at) is fighting back rather than surrendering, the military is trained to shoot to kill. It's that simple.
  
And "The police can't just shoot someone just because the person is a nuisance and won't give up so easily." Osama was a "nuisance"?  Your lack of describing something comparable is laughable.  Again, not talking police and not talking about someone who is drunk and disorderly.
		 
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					Originally Posted by AnotherKD  The paragraphs leading up to your disclaimers had absolutely nothing to add to this topic, as you were talking of police operations. "20 shots to center mass" may be hyperbolic, but it is safe to say that if in a military operation, if some "offender" (which I still have to laugh at) is fighting back rather than surrendering, the military is trained to shoot to kill. It's that simple. |  But, you read and understood the disclaimers so you know that I know it isn't the same thing.
  
I know the military is trained to shoot to kill so I didn't interpret Splash to only be talking about military operations. Does the U.S. military just do whatever it does regardless of where it does it? Rhetorical.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by AnotherKD  And "The police can't just shoot someone just because the person is a nuisance and won't give up so easily." Osama was a "nuisance"? Your lack of describing something comparable is laughable. Again, not talking police and not talking about someone who is drunk and disorderly. |  This lets me know that you completely misunderstood my posts, including the disclaimers that are an instrumental part of my posts.
		 
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					Originally Posted by DrPhil  This lets me know that you completely misunderstood my posts, including the disclaimers that are an instrumental part of my posts. |  I'm not sure, considering I posted about how "offenders" (Splash didn't define them in her post, so I was assuming she was talking about Osama, as this was the crux of this discussion) would get shot in that situation, and the first reply by you was talking about policemen.  Apples to wheelbarrows.
		 
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					Originally Posted by AnotherKD  I'm not sure, considering I posted about how "offenders" (Splash didn't define them in her post, so I was assuming she was talking about Osama, as this was the crux of this discussion) would get shot in that situation, and the first reply by you was talking about policemen. Apples to wheelbarrows. |  I consider Splash to be talking generally since many who question the Osama killing are doing so based on the laws of their lands (since international laws and military practices aren't known by most people) and they wonder when all of these laws become invalid.  But if you only want to talk about terrorists....  
  
Suspected and known terrorists sometimes get caught and they aren't all immediately killed.  Some are apprehended.  Why some are apprehended and others are killed is the real crux of this issue.
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