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Old 04-28-2011, 03:41 PM
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My own issue with the President's birth certificate was that the one he had originally released would not have been valid for most lineage societies. I haven't yet seen it, so I won't comment further on it.
At the time I posted anything, I had not been able to read the long form. What has interested me in the whole birther movement all along was that, in years of doing genealogical work, I had never heard of such a hard time in getting a long form - if you ask for the long form. Pennsylvania is one of those states - no long form, not acceptable. And, I have done genealogical work involving Hawaii, as one of my mother's younger cousins was born there.

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What Obama produced originally is what the State Hawaii allowed to be released.
See above.

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I was just stating my own interest in the matter. Also, I have seen Hawaiian birth certificates that were long form - this is not of the magnatude to which it's reached.
What I was saying, from my genealogical experience, was that it doesn't take an act of congress or major league begging to get the long form.

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Not true for DAR and UDC. What other lineage societies are you referring to?
Very intrigued by where you got this information, as I've taken the training for both. Granted, the DAR is usually considered the strictest, but when it comes to generations from oh, 1900 and up, birth certificates must include the information stated on the long form because it's considered readily available. I'm a volunteer genealogist for the DAR, so I realize that, the further back you go, the more that a preponderence of information must do, since records weren't kept well. This is especially clear when needing the 1890 census.

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Understood in your own interest, but when your own interest shape your opinion, that's how Tea Parties are started. Just like what PreciousJeni wrote Certificate of Live Birth is not proof according to her far right.

Heck some states recognize the Family bible.
Yes, Family Bibles are considered as proofs - WHEN they are contemporary with the information. You can't go out and buy an old Bible, list your family's information, and expect it to be accepted.

I'm hoping to not answer any further questions, as I have said that I had an issue of genealogical interest, not political. No, I'm not a big fan of the President, but it has nothing to do with his race.
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