Impressions of SAE and frats in general

[XEbabypanda]

hawaiitke, the fact that you just called minority students social outcasts is absolutely 110% absurd. my sorority is very ethnically diverse, and we pride ourselves on that. and i'm fairly certain that they didn't go greek to avoid becoming "social outcasts". in fact, i'm sure no minority student thinks that when going through recruitment. i'm white, but even i'm personally offended by that statement.

in response to the point of the thread... every chapter has their stereotypes, but in terms of ethnic diversity, everyone is pretty diverse here! my college as a whole really prides itself on diversity and embracing the differences between you and another student.... we like diversity here at ohio state

[DrPhil]

What's worse is you thinking you can speak for minority students

Originally Posted by XEbabypanda

in fact, i'm sure no minority student thinks that when going through recruitment.

You don't know what anyone besides you is thinking, let alone minority students. Don't try to speak for minority students. Some minority students across institutions feel like social outcasts and express those feelings around those they feel comfortable talking to (hint, they wouldn't necessarily share this information with most white people).

I agree with HawaiiTKE.

As for the diversity at your school, maybe and maybe not. In general, white people tend to express a different opinion of diversity and assume that "diversity efforts" (whatever that means) are much more successful than they are just because there's a diversity logo somewhere and there are a few more brown people here and there. Don't fret, that isn't just about white people. That's typical of majority-minority relations.

[als463]

Isn't SAE a Jewish fraternity? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I was just wondering.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by als463

Isn't SAE a Jewish fraternity? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I was just wondering.

SAM (Sigma Alpha Mu) is historicalaly Jewish, but initiates members of all religions.

[als463]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

SAM (Sigma Alpha Mu) is historicalaly Jewish, but initiates members of all religions.

Yeah, I knew Sammy was but (for some reason) I always thought SAE was, too. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I was wrong, this entire time..lol

[SAEalumnus]

SAE's principal founder and his father were both Baptist ministers. While our Ritual does not make any overt references to religion, the morals and philosophy written by him are definitely compatible.

[als463]

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus

SAE's principal founder and his father were both Baptist ministers. While our Ritual does not make any overt references to religion, the morals and philosophy written by him are definitely compatible.

You know, there are great chapters of SAE at both my schools and I didn't realize it wasn't Jewish. How could I not know? I pride myself on usually knowing about the various organizations. I'm sorry for confusing that with SAM (another great fraternity). Well, to the OP, it's a great organization! Be proud!